The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

[Kenny]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1697534783914479745

 

[Johnny75]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1697534783914479745

How do you have Langers on ignore?

 

[nimrod]

But that suggests there were genuine FFP issues, which the vast majority of people on here say is bullshit, and the figures suggest are bullshit.

So what are the club up to?

no, it simply demonstrates that even if there were FFP issues based on what the club has sort of said, the Nunes sale monies should still largely all be available to be spent. doesn't mean they will be or have to be and you do have to factor in wages. Whether the club was honest about the original FFP position is a different matter - we're all sceptical about that. I don't see how they don't know whether they've lost £60m or £80m last year for instance - it's a big difference.

 

[Kenny]

How do you have Langers on ignore?

Think you will find I posted first but couldn't be arsed to start a new thread

 

[The Bear]

It's cash flow rather than FFP. We could have sold Kilman to help with that but the manager at the time and Hobbs thought he was a key player and didn't want him sold.

Now Nunes has gone we have money in the bank available to us to strengthen the squad. The issue was paying the initial payment onnany of these deals, which is why Jeff was in China recently, trying to convince Guo to free up funds to use.

 

[The Dude]

Poor Sasa's 1 in 2 ratio.

1 in 2 is proof is it? I'd accept that if he'd scored 1 in 2 over a period of 80 matches.

By that logic Darren Roberts was once a 3 in 1 striker!

 

[Tony Towner]

Now Nunes has gone we have money in the bank available to us to strengthen the squad. The issue was paying the initial payment onnany of these deals, which is why Jeff was in China recently, trying to convince Guo to free up funds to use.

That's some assumption you've drawn there, based on zero evidence. He spent the entire Summer there

 

[The Bear]

That's some assumption you've drawn there, based on zero evidence

It's based on stuff I heard weeks ago.

 

[nimrod]

It's cash flow rather than FFP. We could have sold Kilman to help with that but the manager at the time and Hobbs thought he was a key player and didn't want him sold.

Now Nunes has gone we have money in the bank available to us to strengthen the squad. The issue was paying the initial payment onnany of these deals, which is why Jeff was in China recently, trying to convince Guo to free up funds to use.

if we already had sales of c £100m before nunes, i think it could only be a cashflow issue if they've used a big chunk of that to repay fosun loans. not even sure if that would be allowed under the £105m rule?

 

[Kenny]

Nunes officially gone.

 

[From Distant Shores]

Isn’t the issue about transfer money that Fosun are not able to invest any more money into the club. That was the gist of the postings by The Accountant. He said that their lenders would not allow them invest in companies that would not provide a return.

Doesn’t the FFP limit of 105m loss over last three years only apply if the owners invest 90m?

Without the investment isn’t the FFP limit only 15m loss?

 

[Kenny]

Players linked with us:
Holding - in talks with Palace
McAtee - Looks like he is joining Sheff Utd on loan

 

[From Distant Shores]

Even that doesn’t explain rejecting 30m for Kilman.

 

[Sniffer]

Isn’t the issue about transfer money that Fosun are not able to invest any more money into the club. That was the gist of the postings by The Accountant. He said that their lenders would not allow them invest in companies that would not provide a return.

Doesn’t the FFP limit of 105m loss over last three years only apply if the owners invest 90m?

Without the investment isn’t the FFP limit only 15m loss?

I don't think that it has to be investment, just a guarantee that they'll cover the losses. I did post the rule in here a week or so ago.

 

[From Distant Shores]

Players linked with us:
Holding - in talks with Palace
McAtee - Looks like he is joining Sheff Utd on loan

How many players are you allowed to borrow from a PL club?

 

[Lupo]

Nunes officially gone.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1697542358940938510

 

[From Distant Shores]

I don't think that it has to be investment, just a guarantee that they'll cover the losses. I did post the rule in here a week or so ago.

Perhaps they can’t even do that.

 

[Sniffer]

Even that doesn’t explain rejecting 30m for Kilman.

Correct - Kilman would have made a bigger FFP Profit than Nunes.

Its cash (or the promise of it) that they wanted.

 

[The Bear]

How many players are you allowed to borrow from a PL club?

Two registered at any time. Only one from the same club.

 

[Jack Regan]

Hopefully the door slammed back and hit Matheus in the face on his way out.