The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

[Alan]

Stick in the mud.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Its only a good thing if we actually do something with a money, otherwise its just asset stripping

Raul, Jonny aren’t much of an asset. Neither is RAN if Lop doesn’t want to play him and I for one won’t miss Podence. I’ve no doubt there will be replacements and that whoever they are they’ll be bigger assets than anyone we sell.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I’ve no doubt there will be replacements and that whoever they are they’ll be bigger assets than anyone we sell.

I admire your optimism.

 

[WsWolf]

I admire your optimism.

Just based on Hobbs time here, how many players they have signed have been outright failures? At least 50% have been significant upgrades, that's cause for optimism.

 

[sycophantia]

It'll be hugely disappointing if we don't get a substantial amount say 20m for Podence and RAN. I would think we'll have close to 100m in sales by the end of the window. How much and how we we spend it remains to be seen. I'm encouraged by the out goings and the performance of Hobbs.

 

[Tredman]

Raul, Jonny aren’t much of an asset. Neither is RAN if Lop doesn’t want to play him and I for one won’t miss Podence. I’ve no doubt there will be replacements and that whoever they are they’ll be bigger assets than anyone we sell.

We've not sold them though? My point was congratulating Wolves for selling our best asset and not signing anyone (yet) is a little premature

 

[pr0sl0]

Surprised to see so many suggestions that RAN is in the same bucket of limited value players as Raul, Jonny, Hwang, Podence, etc. He's still perceived outside Wolves as an exciting young player with a lot of potential to develop further, and has had suitors in the past. Collins might be about to go for £25m after a bad season, and I imagine that's more in the ballpark for where RAN's value is as well.

 

[North Shropshire Lad]

Interesting that Collins has gone [is going?] to Brentford where Ben Mee is already. He couldn't displace Mee at Burnley but I assume Mee must have been asked his opinion on him prior to Brentford's interest?
I think it's a decent deal all round and given I sit in the North Bank and watched Collins closely last year, I don't think he was going to come good at Wolves regardless of what he goes on the achieve elsewhere. His confidence was shot, performances were terrible and the crowd was jittery every time he was involved.

 

[Del Woppio]

Surprised to see so many suggestions that RAN is in the same bucket of limited value players as Raul, Jonny, Hwang, Podence, etc. He's still perceived outside Wolves as an exciting young player with a lot of potential to develop further, and has had suitors in the past. Collins might be about to go for £25m after a bad season, and I imagine that's more in the ballpark for where RAN's value is as well.

Agreed, I think there's a really good player in RAN and I'd be really disappointed to see him go for less than £20m

 

[b3h]

Agreed, I think there's a really good player in RAN and I'd be really disappointed to see him go for less than £20m

I'm dissappinted its not worked out for him under Lop for whatever reason. Maybe he just wants someone with more experience and prefers Bueno to RAN as the understudy

 

[Deano]

Thought RAN was poor when he played left back last season, there's a difference between being a talented and skilful footballer to being able to do the job and play the position properly. He isn't as good as Bueno.

 

[Alan]

The hype with RAN has been overblown for ages, IMO. Good footballer, mid player.

 

[Lycan]

Yeah I'm not sure he'll ever be all that.

Seriously talented to be able to dribble through players the way he does but it never seems to amount to anything. Maybe in the right system he could be a big threat but I can't see it happening here.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Interesting piece in The Athletic today. Clubs are increasingly keen to have cash loaded up front in deals rather than the standard of spreading it across multiple years as it has been for the last decade or two, because inflation globally means that if you sell someone for £20m and agree that the buying club can send £5m a year (this has always been fine before)...you don't want that now as in a couple of years those final two £5m payments might not be buying you much or paying your bills particularly well.

May explain why we are getting a lot of outgoings done first (on favourable terms, you'd hope) and why it's not *just* a question of FFP, amortisation etc, we'd like to have the cold hard cash in our hands now and then use that to our advantage, especially as many clubs in Europe are skint (for instance, you will not see many big money deals in Italy now or any time soon).

 

[Alan]

I can fairly easily imagine the club/Shi thinking "what, I'm supposed to explain macroeconomics to the fans? Just blame FFP".

 

[Kenny]

I can fairly easily imagine the Shi thinking "what the fuck is macroeconomics? I'll just blame FFP".

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[Alan]

Touché tbf

 

[Kenny]

So, Ocampos aside. Any one else worth trying to nab? Fake Bono maybe?

 

[Tredman]

Bono for sure

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

En-Nesyri has to be the one.