The Football News Thread 2015/16 - everything non-Wolves

[Freddeno]

Yeah i understand, it will be interesting to follow. I guess media in england will be all over this and cover as much as possible..

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I have no idea about the legal requirements, but surely the longer it drags on, the longer it denies Evans the opportunity to resume his career. That is of course providing he is found innocent.

You can't expect Court time to be suddenly found at the drop of a hat because he is a footballer - that isn't realistic unfortunately. It is just the way the system works.

There is absolutely no guarantee that he will be found innocent either. We don't know what the "new evidence" is at all.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Of course there isn't anything preventing a club from employing Evans as it stands anyway. If they want to employ a convicted rapist and deal with the fallout then that's up to them, much as clubs employed a unrepentant killer in Lee Hughes.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Quite. He has served the time given to him for the offence, and that isn't going to be increased, so in theory he can just get on with it. Is he in non-league now, or completely without a club? I can't remember how it finished.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Not got a club. Sheff Utd, Oldham and Hartlepool pondered it last season and got frightened away by the backlash. His level was demonstrably League One before he got put away so whatever new deal he gets somewhere wouldn't be that lucrative.

 

[Tony Towner]

Pretty sure he's working for his Mrs' dad who has a few quid

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[Penk Wolf]

Evans case is dodgy as fuck anyway.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

We will see on appeal. I will be staggered if he is cleared, personally.

 

[Penk Wolf]

We will see on appeal. I will be staggered if he is cleared, personally.

Having spent far too much time looking at the case, regardless of the appeal or the verdict, the case is dodgy as hell.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Maybe so, but that is your opinion, and not the opinion of the court as we sit here today. There is clearly something worth re-considering as he has been given leave to appeal. It will be interesting to see what is reported and also if any of the new evidence is publicised.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I'm quite surprised that the case hasn't created major problems for the courts by setting a new precedent.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Courts set precedents all the time. I have been involved in cases that did that.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Yeah, but potentially opening a flood gate of people calling rape because they were too drunk to consent.

I would guess that virtually everyone adult in the UK could claim rape on those grounds.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I really don't have a problem with that at all. If someone is too drunk to consent then they cannot consent. Yes, they have been reckless in getting shedded but they still have the right to not be raped.

Evans was reckless as to the consent. And that is how the court saw it. In my opinion absolutely rightly so.

As to your second assertion, I absolutely have not got myself into that situation with alcohol, ever.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Really, so you've never had sex when you were too drunk to remember?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Never. And more pertinently, I have never had sex with someone else who was too drunk to remember and validly consent either.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Well, I reckon I could probably take 4 women to court for having sex with me without consent. Just need to try and remember their names...

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Er - you can't. Heterosexual sex only the male can be the rapist.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Er - you can't. Heterosexual sex only the male can be the rapist.

Always thought that seems a bit unfair, with this 'too drunk to consent' thing it could just as easily be the man taken advantage of.

 

[Alan]

Always thought that seems a bit unfair, with this 'too drunk to consent' thing it could just as easily be the man taken advantage of.

Think he's talking in terms of the strict legal definition.

For example, I can't bring charges against my rapist because I have the penis. Doesn't mean the experience didn't fuck me right up. Granted I don't know the specifics of the UK law on the subject.