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The Football News Thread 2014/15 - Everything not Wolves News Related

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The Morocco thing is strange unless they've closed the borders not letting anyone in.
 
Steven Pressley's post losing to Worcester City rant is an absolute joy to behold. He looks ready to kill most of the Coventry squad.
 
Eric Dier withdraws from the England U21 squad for 2 friendlies as he doesn't want to play at right back and wants to concentrate on being a centre back.
 
To be fair it looks like Southgate is on board with it:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...nder21-setup-to-work-on-his-game-9857196.html

Spurs need to hold up their end of the bargain and not keep sticking him at RB. Never quite got that with clubs (we are awful for it), have a right footed centre half, stick him at right back any time you have a gap there. Not many left footed centre halves get moved to left back - there are exceptions such as Vertonghen but it's far less common.
 
I liked Greg Dyke's quote when asked if this has damaged the reputation of FIFA."I think it's hard to damage the image of FIFA"
 
If we were in a position where signing Ched Evans would improve the team, would you sign him?

All getting pretty heavy now. Sponsors threatening to pull out of Sheff Utd and Jess Ennis wants her name taking off the stand if they re-sign him.

I find his complete lack of remorse (even allowing for his proclaimed innocence) seriously distasteful, I wouldn't want characters like that here (but then I said that about Pennant and Marlon King and others were happy enough for us to be after players like that, so maybe it's just me). But can you stop a man from working in his chosen field? If Sheff Utd don't sign him then surely someone else will?

It's not a wise move on his part to be releasing videos showing him with no contrition at all, given that he is going to be asking what are, after all, community representatives to be employing him. I think that Marlon King is an unequivocally worse human being than Ched Evans and there was nowhere near as much fuss made about him and his return to football - and he was a repeat scumbag, the list of his offences is horrific. A lot of this is media led and there's a definite snowball effect, once one patron/sponsor/whatever pulls out then the rest fall over themselves to do the same so they're not the ones left "condoning rape" or some bullshit.

On Evans himself, I don't know how I'd deal with it personally as I seriously doubt I would ever get myself in that position - I'm not sure what footballers' obsession is with shagging girls together and getting their mates to film it. Obviously he feels he is innocent - but he could and should be handling it a bit more sensitively than he is, and that's definitely contributing to the reaction I think. You could argue that he has no need to apologise if indeed he has been wrongly convicted but there are ways and means of going about it. Painting yourself as the wronged victim when the most charitable version of events is that his mate was banging some random girl who was out of her mind on drink, told Evans, he went to the hotel, had his turn while others watched on and filmed it, and then sneaked out of the fire escape - and you want people to believe this version so that you can resume your very highly paid career - well, it leaves a pretty sour taste, doesn't it.

As I say I'm sure someone will sign him well before the start of next season, does it make any difference whether he's playing for Sheffield United or say, Wycombe? Surely it doesn't make any difference. But the PFA aren't going to stop him playing, there is nothing to stop a club signing him...so while I get why (some) Sheffield United fans, public faces of the club and investors don't want any association with him, eventually someone will. It's inevitable.
 
That's a good summation. Scumbag? absolutely, rapist, well a jury said yes. He still protests his innocence and has a judicial review in front of him. While he remains a convicted rapist, I would stop attending games if he played for my club. If he overturns that judgement then I would reverse me view. I'm not in any position to second guess what happened that evening
 
Anyone that gets convicted of abuse or harming another person shouldn't be allowed to be employed by a football club. The FA should put rules in place to stop it.
 
Hmmm, I don't think you can be that puritanical about it. Or you end up with the likes of SEB banned for life in 2008 because he had a scuffle with a doorman. I don't see what purpose that serves anyway, the "footballers are role models" stuff doesn't really hold much weight for me. Why should they be role models? If I had kids I wouldn't want them to aspire to be a vacuous twat like a lot of footballers are. Pretty sure they don't sign up to be a role model just because they happen to be good at sport. For example, I found the John Terry/Wayne Bridge stuff extremely tedious and the shrill demands for him to lose the England captaincy because of it just don't have any place in sport for me. This isn't Hello! magazine, what John Terry does with his genitalia to consenting adults is his business. Being a horrible racist cunt is obviously a different bag.

Not keen on putting minor offences like affray on the same level as rape either. Evans is principally causing controversy because he seems alarmingly, vehemently and explicitly unrepentant about what he was convicted of. Imagine if Lee Hughes had issued a video the day after he was released saying "I stand by my original story, I wasn't driving the car but I can't tell you who was, this whole affair has been a miscarriage of justice and the deceased's family were always out to get me".
 
Equatorial Guinea to hold the ACON. Their team had been disqualified from the Tournament for fielding an ineligible player but now will take part in the finals.
 
Hmmm, I don't think you can be that puritanical about it. Or you end up with the likes of SEB banned for life in 2008 because he had a scuffle with a doorman. I don't see what purpose that serves anyway, the "footballers are role models" stuff doesn't really hold much weight for me. Why should they be role models? If I had kids I wouldn't want them to aspire to be a vacuous twat like a lot of footballers are. Pretty sure they don't sign up to be a role model just because they happen to be good at sport. For example, I found the John Terry/Wayne Bridge stuff extremely tedious and the shrill demands for him to lose the England captaincy because of it just don't have any place in sport for me. This isn't Hello! magazine, what John Terry does with his genitalia to consenting adults is his business. Being a horrible racist cunt is obviously a different bag.

Not keen on putting minor offences like affray on the same level as rape either. Evans is principally causing controversy because he seems alarmingly, vehemently and explicitly unrepentant about what he was convicted of. Imagine if Lee Hughes had issued a video the day after he was released saying "I stand by my original story, I wasn't driving the car but I can't tell you who was, this whole affair has been a miscarriage of justice and the deceased's family were always out to get me".
Yes there'd probably need to be a sliding scale of bans dependent on the offences. There needs to be some kind of personal conduct code in the sport to abide by though IMO.

Like when Ashley Cole shot that lad with an air gun. He should have gotten a ban for a few games for that.
 
Anyone that gets convicted of abuse or harming another person shouldn't be allowed to be employed by a football club. The FA should put rules in place to stop it.

I agree with this to some extent - it should be written into professional contracts that very serious offences such as those Evans, Hughes, McCormack et al were found guilty of in a court of law should prohibit such convicted offenders from finding employment in professional football.

As it stands, I don't like the idea that non-contrite ex-convicts like Evans can walk into another job in football and I'd be more than a bit pissed off if we were in for him. At the time, I voiced my disgust at the suggestion of Marlon King being linked with us.

Of course, there's nothing in the law preventing clubs from giving these players a 2nd chance (or in King's case, even a 42nd chance) but I do feel clubs should have a moral obligation to the people connected to them - fans, the local communities etc. The problem is that clubs all over the world aren't going to favour moral values over their 'assets' any time soon. And that is wrong IMO.

Right now, I think it's a grey area that badly needs to be sorted out with a definitive order to it - to the extreme that to offend to such an extent means bye bye football career.
 
Where do you draw the line though? Troy Deeney got sent to prison for a pretty cowardly, nasty physical attack. Didn't even have his contract terminated, Watford just waited for him to be set free. By all accounts he has turned his life around and does a lot of very valuable community work. Wouldn't have had the chance to if you're just arbitrarily banning people because football apparently exists on a special moral plain.
 
No you wouldn't ban them for life, I agree that's too draconian. He'd have been banned for a set amount of games/time once he was available to play.
 
There has to be contrition though. Deeney was clearly contrite. Evans is anything but.
 
So we've moved from:

'All criminals convicted of violent/sexual offences should be banned'

To

'Some criminals convicted of violent/sexual offences should be banned'

To

'Remorseful criminals convicted of violent/sexual offences should be able to play, but those who aren't remorseful shouldn't'

It's a minefield the game cannot enter. I repeat - I would not want Ched Evans here. But you cannot ban him.
 
You can't ban them but you would hope clubs would think we don't want that history being associated with our club. Doesn't happen but it ain't a perfect world is it
 
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