Summer 2021 transfer window

[AndyWolves]

We actually bid for Kieffer Moore didn't we?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Seems so. Which shows how clueless the whole shambles was. Not good enough. Not by a long way.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

We actually bid for Kieffer Moore didn't we?

And knocked back too.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

A shambolic scattergun approach has let us down. Two high quality centre halves targeted at the end of last week yet we end the window chasing a centre forward and a central midfielder. What was the plan, try and sign anyone we can get cheaper than their true worth? It makes no sense whatsoever. Most of Fosun’s early signings were via Mendes but as soon as we have to look beyond his clients we are comically inept. Time for Shi to bring in an experienced recruitment team and for Fosun to accept trying to play hardball with other clubs at the tail end of the window is a risky strategy that is as likely to leave you with nothing as net a bargain.

 

[Paul]

Yep still annoyed and frustrated this morning, hopefully a day looking after/playing with my grandson will reset my mind to what's actually important.

I had a man in his early 30's crying and shaking in my office yesterday morning because his wife had took the kids and left him over the weekend, and now no one is answering the phone to him, an hour to calm him down from some dangerous thoughts.
It's all about perspective.

 

[Johnny75]

I had a man in his early 30's crying and shaking in my office yesterday morning because his wife had took the kids and left him over the weekend, and now no one is answering the phone to him, an hour to calm him down from some dangerous thoughts.
It's all about perspective.

That’s piss poor Paul.

 

[leon0286]

A shambolic scattergun approach has let us down. Two high quality centre halves targeted at the end of last week yet we end the window chasing a centre forward and a central midfielder. What was the plan, try and sign anyone we can get cheaper than their true worth? It makes no sense whatsoever. Most of Fosun’s early signings were via Mendes but as soon as we have to look beyond his clients we are comically inept. Time for Shi to bring in an experienced recruitment team and for Fosun to accept trying to play hardball with other clubs at the tail end of the window is a risky strategy that is as likely to leave you with nothing as net a bargain.

The Mendes link has been invaluable, but there needs to be more progression outside of that.

This summers best incoming in Trincao, was again down to Mendes.

 

[Throbber3]

I don’t ever want to see posts criticising people for bemoaning the clubs lack of ambition again. By their actions over two years they have nailed their colours to the Billy Wright statue. They are only interested in the brand and what it enables them to do in making money from the sidelines and Wolves FC is a break even entity only , in their eyes. We will do well to stay up I think , now. Whilst our first 11 is fine , our back up depth isn’t there and there are not enough goals so far. Worse still , the lack of backing may sap any enthusiasm Lage had for the job and Traore Neves and Neto may all be looking elsewhere to further their careers . They are better than low table mediocrity. I think we as fans were promised much more than that too. Shi has failed to manage customer expectations by over selling and under delivering, by sanctioning vanity buys like Fabio for extortionate money and by failing to back the new coach who only last week said he expected 3 or 4 in. Really disappointed and an opportunity missed. The goodwill has gone

 

[Tony Towner]

It’s all been downhill since Thelwell left…

Don't forget that both he and Dalrymple left because Jeff Shi didn't leave them alone to do their jobs. At least in subsequent interviews both have hinted at that. His ego is so fragile that the most respected journalist who covers the club said that he resented Nuno as he took all the credit and felt he should be getting it.

He didn't know a thing about football 5 years ago, but now talks like he's a guru- it's insulting. He's surrounded himself with yes men whose collective actions over the last 12 months have been dripping with a foul concoction of arrogance, smugness and hubris. We've signed 4 players for the 1st team squad. 2 via Mendes, a punt from Colombia and a lad Leipzig were hawking around. Only 1 of those can you say is due to scouting/recruitment

If Fosun are still interested in the football side of Brand Wolves then he needs to go and now. If he is a Moxey type figure just carrying out orders from on high then they'll see that foreign fans aren't interested in an also ran, either in football terms or Rocket League and local ones will firstly make the atmosphere poisonous and eventually turn their backs.

 

[Sniffer]

I wanted a centre half to see if a 4 could work but we are tied with 3 at the back until January at least. We have 6 options even when the ACON starts (Coady Kilman, Donk, Marcal, Yerson, Hoever) so that isn't a huge concern.

What is a problem is the central midfield area. Piss poor by all in the recruitment team to leave us so exposed in that area. I can understand why they let Otasowie, Gibbs White and Vitinha go as they obviously thought that they weren't first team starters. To not get competition in for the 3 that we are left with is appalling and as others have said we are one or two injuries away in blooding players who have no Premier League experience in the centre of the park.

 

[WolfMan]

What an absolute load of shit.

It seems from the outside like it's mainly rank incompetence in negotiating transfers. The players we were actually in for were good (apart from Keitfer Moor). There is something seriously wrong in the way we are attempting to do businesss.

As others have said, it doesn't make sense from an I investment perspective either. It's never good to be investing from a position of desperation. If ever there was a time to get a central midfielder in it was now. It's 99% certain Neves will be off next year and Moutinho is out of contract, that leaves us with Dendonker. So our failure to sign a midfielder this window probably means we need three next summer, so we can forget about the CB.

Add the fact we'll have to be spending just to retain Trincao and Hwang to essentially stand still, and it's genuinely terrifying. I really was quite positive at the start of the window but right now it's hard not to reach the conclusion that this is the beginning of the end of great journey, where the final destination is relegation.

 

[Walnut]

I can understand all the frustration, I'm frustrated too. But trying to get players in is not that simple. Its not like Amazon with delivery next day. I would like Jeff to face the press and explain what Fosuns strategy is and what is happening in the future.

 

[Banjo]

It's the failure to manage expectations that's the problem. You can't talk a big game and then do sweet FA.

 

[Tony Towner]

I can understand all the frustration, I'm frustrated too. But trying to get players in is not that simple. Its not like Amazon with delivery next day. I would like Jeff to face the press and explain what Fosuns strategy is and what is happening in the future.

If next day delivery isn't available then don't go shopping the previous day. There isn't an excuse - their stated strategy was to do the majority of their business late in the window, they are on record saying that. It's incompetence not bad luck

 

[MARKakaJIM]

For all the disappointment of yesterday the squad isn't actually worse off than last season is it?

Trincao and Hwang added as attacking options providing greater depth and competition in those areas than there has been previously, only MGW arguably lost from those positions (not that I think anyone really knows where he should/could be playing) so that's got to be seen as an improvement in my eyes at least.

Midfield has been various combinations of Moutinho, Neves and Dendoncker since promotion and now set to continue down the same path for the foreseeable, status quo maintained there then, granted some cover has been skimmed from them with Vitinha, Otasowie and MGW (another maybe position for him I suppose) but in reality they weren't a big part of the squad, only making 41 appearances between them at an average of half an hour or so a time. They're a paper loss more so than a genuine option.

Defence has added Mosquera, probably seen as cover/development option but early signs from pre-season were promising, lets see how he looks in competitive action once he's over his injury. No outgoings there though so certainly not any weaker than previously.

Patricio > Sa still in the balance to some extent in terms of absolute quality but the latter looks like he's more suited to what Lage wants with more willingness to come off his line and far greater urgency to get the ball back in play, plus it's not like Patricio was infallible last season time will tell if that's a blip or if he's on the decline.

Obviously it would've been nice to get a few more faces in and give Lage a bit more opportunity to shape the squad in his image but I think the early signs are encouraging enough with what he's got available, he's certainly getting a completely different tune out of them compared to last season. Few injuries to return too, mainly players that most would rate as the best available in their respective positions to boot, may even allow for continued improvement in spite of the lack of fresh recruits.

 

[Johnny75]

I can understand all the frustration, I'm frustrated too. But trying to get players in is not that simple. Its not like Amazon with delivery next day. I would like Jeff to face the press and explain what Fosuns strategy is and what is happening in the future.

Bought many players?

 

[Johnny75]

For all the disappointment of yesterday the squad isn't actually worse off than last season is it?

Trincao and Hwang added as attacking options providing greater depth and competition in those areas than there has been previously, only MGW arguably lost from those positions (not that I think anyone really knows where he should/could be playing) so that's got to be seen as an improvement in my eyes at least.

Midfield has been various combinations of Moutinho, Neves and Dendoncker since promotion and now set to continue down the same path for the foreseeable, status quo maintained there then, granted some cover has been skimmed from them with Vitinha, Otasowie and MGW (another maybe position for him I suppose) but in reality they weren't a big part of the squad, only making 41 appearances between them at an average of half an hour or so a time. They're a paper loss more so than a genuine option.

Defence has added Mosquera, probably seen as cover/development option but early signs from pre-season were promising, lets see how he looks in competitive action once he's over his injury. No outgoings there though so certainly not any weaker than previously.

Patricio > Sa still in the balance to some extent in terms of absolute quality but the latter looks like he's more suited to what Lage wants with more willingness to come off his line and far greater urgency to get the ball back in play, plus it's not like Patricio was infallible last season time will tell if that's a blip or if he's on the decline.

Obviously it would've been nice to get a few more faces in and give Lage a bit more opportunity to shape the squad in his image but I think the early signs are encouraging enough with what he's got available, he's certainly getting a completely different tune out of them compared to last season. Few injuries to return too, mainly players that most would rate as the best available in their respective positions to boot, may even allow for continued improvement in spite of the lack of fresh recruits.

What utter rubbish.

 

[Haggstone]

I can understand all the frustration, I'm frustrated too. But trying to get players in is not that simple. Its not like Amazon with delivery next day. I would like Jeff to face the press and explain what Fosuns strategy is and what is happening in the future.

No one is suggesting it’s easy. I would say it’s down right impossible if you don’t have sufficient resources, a clear strategy and the right people in place to implement

I’m not sure we have any of those key components. Doesn’t make it any easier to take though.

Like I said last night, we were exemplary on and off the pitch until two years ago. Something somewhere has gone very wrong.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

If next day delivery isn't available then don't go shopping the previous day. There isn't an excuse - their stated strategy was to do the majority of their business late in the window, they are on record saying that. It's incompetence not bad luck

Precisely. If you go shopping on Christmas Eve and can’t find what you want you have to be prepared to pay what it takes to get that bottle of expensive perfume or the repercussions will be felt long after the following day when the wife finds there is no present under the tree.

 

[prawnking]

The Mendes link has been invaluable, but there needs to be more progression outside of that.

This summers best incoming in Trincao, was again down to Mendes.

Don't take this the wrong way, and this is a welcoming forum (they put up with me), but I can't imagine a scenario where I'd be giving my two penneth on Leicester's transfer window at 8am the next day