Summer 2021 transfer window

[AndyWolves]

Here you go. I will happily donate 500 quid to a charity of your choice if he does in the next three seasons.

Harry Kane scored 2 goals during his 19th year on this earth

Nervous?

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I get loads of stick for being negative on here. I prefer to think of it as say what I see. I don’t own rose tinted specs. I will only be truly happy when Eolves are champions, win the champions league and go a season unbeaten. So it’s not happening that I will ever be fully satisfied. That said , the recruitment at wolves has been poor for four windows and I stand by that on the evidence of performance. If that’s negative then colour me miserable

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Harry Kane scored 2 goals during his 19th year on this earth

Great! Match it! If Fabio fails to get within5 goals of Kane in the next 10 years you match 500 quid to charity? Deal?

 

[Lycan]

People keep mentioning Ronaldo and inflation, but a much more recent example is surely Sancho. Dortmund paid 8 million for him at 17. Something who admittedly was looking to leave so I get that changes it, however in the handful of games he played people were already thinking he might have something special. That's the issue we have, we haven't seen that, a well taken goal versus WBA, anything else?

I think Fábio has shown quite a lot apart from the WBA goal tbh. Hit the post with a good hit vs Villa, won and scored the pen vs Burnley, has shown a few quality touches under pressure, scored 2 good goals vs Doncaster in that weird cup, 3 or 4 times he's been inches away from getting in front of his man at the near post but has ended up hooking the ball wide/over under pressure, the anticipation to get on the end of the chance vs Leicester... The last 2 examples, against youth defenders/keepers he puts those chances in the back of the net. He just has to adapt to the greater quality that he's facing now. That's more than 99.9% of 18 year old strikers would be able to show at this level.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I think Fábio has shown quite a lot apart from the WBA goal tbh. Hit the post with a good hit vs Villa, won and scored the pen vs Burnley, has shown a few quality touches under pressure, scored 2 good goals vs Doncaster in that weird cup, 3 or 4 times he's been inches away from getting in front of his man at the near post but has ended up hooking the ball wide/over under pressure, the anticipation to get on the end of the chance vs Leicester... The last 2 examples, against youth defenders/keepers he puts those chances in the back of the net. He just has to adapt to the greater quality that he's facing now. That's more than 99.9% of 18 year old strikers would be able to show at this level.

Go on then put your money up

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I think Fábio has shown quite a lot apart from the WBA goal tbh. Hit the post with a good hit vs Villa, won and scored the pen vs Burnley, has shown a few quality touches under pressure, scored 2 good goals vs Doncaster in that weird cup, 3 or 4 times he's been inches away from getting in front of his man at the near post but has ended up hooking the ball wide/over under pressure, the anticipation to get on the end of the chance vs Leicester... The last 2 examples, against youth defenders/keepers he puts those chances in the back of the net. He just has to adapt to the greater quality that he's facing now. That's more than 99.9% of 18 year old strikers would be able to show at this level.

Not 35m ones there are , well no others

 

[Deleted Cyber]

No one is knocking his brain or his touch. It’s decent. His finish his strength and his pace are meh

 

[slink]

Pretty sure i'm Fabio's biggest defender to be fair on here mainly because i think the criticism is over the top but of course £35 million for him is an outrageous fee. He's worth nowhere near that and i think everyone including the club are fully aware of that. They've signed him on potential and potential alone, whether that's something we should have done now i think is a debate that can be had. Personally i don't think i would have but you have to give the club a degree of trust with the signing. As it is i know a lot can't see what i think i can see and some aren't patient enough to see it come out imo but it will be a while until we can see if the money may be worth it.

In terms of comparing him to other players i don't think it's fair. I know comments from coaches and Jeff get out and people then hang on these but that doesn't sit right with me. Judge Fabio on what he does on the pitch for the club by the time he leaves. What can be done though is look at how other players progress or don't. There's plenty of players each year that are touted as the next "Ronaldo" "Zidane" "Vieira" insert another world class player here but don't get anywhere near to it and there are plenty of players who many don't rate who end up being very good footballers.

I think it happens with most players that whenever something is negative that criticism goes too far or people have blind spots for things. Many might think i have a blind spot for Fabio at times but i don't think i do, i know he has a lot to work on and things he has to improve but i also don't think we carry him or that he's slow or that RAN would be a better option for example.

At the end of the day it's not an exact science and there always things that are variable and people see different things. Not comparable in terms of position or anything but look at Cancelo now for City, for me one of the best players in the league never mind one of the best full backs. He's dominating games for City from that position. City signed him for £60 million, he struggled to get in the side for a long time, played both sides including in our 2-0 win last season and looked average at best. If you had seen him play before you knew he wasn't but he took a while to adapt and now City are getting the benefits. That's a £60 million full international coming in to the best team in the league/Europe/world yet some are expecting an 18 year old to be firing for us straight away. Life and football simply doesn't work like that.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

There are two strands to the argument I think.

1) Can we understand why the club did it? I've tried to outline this and set out some parallels. You can agree with it or not but too many of our fans (not so much on here) view every season in isolation which is just stupid. We didn't buy Fabio Silva so he could fire us to the Champions League in 2020/21, no-one thought that. We'll see how it goes.

2) Is he ready now? You would have to say no. Is this doing him any good? I would say it probably is. I have no idea where his ceiling is but if you want a bit of tough love then having to face top end centre halves every week in a struggling team, it'll make you a man quicker than you think. Eons and eons and eons down the pyramid but I remember me at 18 going into men's football, I didn't have a prayer when I first started (but I could play a bit). By the time I was 20 I was up for the scrap. People develop at different rates physically, we'll see how we go. 18 is very very young indeed.

I think to write him off is disrespectful and short sighted, at best what do you get out of it? In five years you get to say "I was right" in a conversation no-one remembers? Well great.

We all want the best for him, surely.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

There are two strands to the argument I think.

1) Can we understand why the club did it? I've tried to outline this and set out some parallels. You can agree with it or not but too many of our fans (not so much on here) view every season in isolation which is just stupid. We didn't buy Fabio Silva so he could fire us to the Champions League in 2020/21, no-one thought that. We'll see how it goes.

2) Is he ready now? You would have to say no. Is this doing him any good? I would say it probably is. I have no idea where his ceiling is but if you want a bit of tough love then having to face top end centre halves every week in a struggling team, it'll make you a man quicker than you think. Eons and eons and eons down the pyramid but I remember me at 18 going into men's football, I didn't have a prayer when I first started (but I could play a bit). By the time I was 20 I was up for the scrap. People develop at different rates physically, we'll see how we go. 18 is very very young indeed.

I think to write him off is disrespectful and short sighted, at best what do you get out of it? In five years you get to say "I was right" in a conversation no-one remembers? Well great.

We all want the best for him, surely.

That’s fair enough. But to dismiss people who are worried that he won’t make the grade and it’s not worth the money is, in my view not fair

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Don't think anyone at all has done that, dismissing people just totally writing him off, sure.

 

[PuntsWolf]

I have no issue with with what the club have done, and he probably will come good. We’ve just overpaid

 

[sycophantia]

Is there any way on the forum I can block any post that has the names Silva or Traore in them?

 

[AndyWolves]

Is there any way on the forum I can block any post that has the names Silva or Traore in them?

I wouldn't bother logging in until at least 2024

 

[YoungWolf]

3 goals in just over 10 full games. That’s good! (Yes small sample).

Just catching up on the posts today (interesting reading) but Fabio isn't so far off that this season

Is Fabio worth £35m now? Obviously not. I don't thinkk anyone actually thinks that. Will it represent good value in a few years time for us? I'm fairly confident as even at the very least he will be a decent goalscorer at this level (IMO).

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I have to say that you lot have seen more from young Fabio than I have .
I would be very very pleased to have this one shoved back down my throat

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Is the 25million plus that Dortmund spent on Bellingham a fair comparison?

 

[PuntsWolf]

Just catching up on the posts today (interesting reading) but Fabio isn't so far off that this season

Is Fabio worth £35m now? Obviously not. I don't thinkk anyone actually thinks that. Will it represent good value in a few years time for us? I'm fairly confident as even at the very least he will be a decent goalscorer at this level (IMO).

Do you reckon if we’d have offered £20m they’d have said no? How could they have? (apparently desperate for cash, normally means you get less than market rate not considerably more!).

In the hypothetical world he’s worth £50m (current day value) in 3 years, we’ve merely broken even, that’s not a good return on your investment for the exposure you put in.

Like I’ve said before, there’s no reason to pay what we did other than incompetence or there’s something else to it. I’m fine with the second one as thats what we’ve signed up for and we’ve more than benefitted from it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Is the 25million plus that Dortmund spent on Bellingham a fair comparison?

Yes and no; Yes in the sense that Bellingham apparently played well at a reasonable level (although we know the Championship isn't all that, and I honestly knowingly have never watched him play a full game so I couldn't comment). No in the sense that Blues are owned by dreadful people and value is an abstract concept with them.

 

[Johnny75]

I'm hoping Silva becomes a Ronaldo rather than Pietro Pellegri.