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Sheff Utd 2-1 Wolves: Verdict Thread

Your last paragraph is exactly what GON said in his interview. We need to be better so these shit decisions don't have such an impact on our games.
It was a decent press conference. Impressed with how he's come along with these. He was a wanker blaming Lop and telling everybody the place was shit when he started but now he's taken responsibility and not sugar coating things he's much better.
 
GON knows we were shit second half and pretty much says we need to take away the chance of us being screwed over by VAR.
Exactly, I’m getting pissed off with listening to whoever it is covering our game on 5live and hearing them say ‘Wolves should be two or three up’ every halftime when we’re playing away.
 
GON knows we were shit second half and pretty much says we need to take away the chance of us being screwed over by VAR.
Which is the correct balance.
In the first half we were our usual selves, lacking conviction or the ability to put the ball in the net, pretty typical stuff. Neto was an obvious miss, his directness may have lead to a goal, but that's conjecture. In the second we conceded a soft goal, Toti has been given an easy ride on here, you wouldn't have that flick from an U15 defender, which on the balance of play they deserved. Sa, was caught in the middle of nowhere, but that's more on Toti's brainfart than him. We score, because shit teams concede in the last minute, but rather than a momentum shift they were the better team in injury time. The penalty is what it is and cost us a point, but O'Neil deserves respect for not hiding just behind it.
 
I’d rather we played a proper 4 atb today and started Bellegarde
 
For whatever reason fabio cried today, that's for him to know.
Personally i think he should be crying for how poor he has been in general since he arrived at wolves.
35 million or not, he is not a premier league player, and i dont think he ever will be.
He's a bit arrogant/egotistical in many of his interviews and doesn't endear himself (certainly not to me) so i think the club has to bite the bullett, take the hit and just get rid in january.
He was simply poor (again) today.
 
Second game on MOTD, ain’t gonna watch it and see them fawning over Heckingbottom.
 
Did anyone see MOTD and the pundits opinion?
 
Few of my thoughts having slept on it (I watched the game live and haven’t seen any replays or highlights).

I thought we were well on top in the first half and were clearly the better side; but the signs were there from early on that we were doing the standard Wolves thing of being dragged down to the opponents level, rather than playing our own game and going on to win comfortably. We’ve seen this for years, regardless of the manager or the players on the pitch - it’s weird.

In that first half, we broke through a number of times but once again, our final pass (Cunha & Semedo both spring to mind) let us down, or we were afraid to shoot. I didn’t think playing Hwang so deep and wide worked or played to his strengths. We need him in & around the box where he can get on the end of stuff without having to think too much about it. I lost count of the number of heavy touches he took, giving up possession. In the end, it looked to me like his head had dropped. Shame because in the opening 10 minutes he was having a good battle with Robinson.

Sasa just looks clumsy. He occasionally has some nice touches, but I struggled to see exactly what he brought yesterday. He didn’t link particularly well with the others, doesn’t have pace to break & wasn’t causing them issues in the box on set pieces - which I thought he may have done. In fact for a lot of the time he just seemed focused on winding up the crowd. Was a strange performance. Cunha was what we’ve come to expect - all huff, very little end product.

Dawson & Kilman were fine, but I thought Toti struggled a bit. He didn’t offer us anything going forward & RAN seemed a bit untidy in front of him. Now I come to think of it, the whole set up looked a bit slapdash and like no one really knew what they were doing. Why was Doyle sat on Dawsons toes, for example? I understand we’ve lost our best player to injury, but you have to find a way to get past that. It’s odd, as I actually commented before the match that the team had a nice balance to it, but it didn’t pan out that way.

We had a bit of a throw back to the early days under GON with the random substitutions that had little to no impact. It was a nice goal from Bellegarde but he didn’t do much outside of that (and I’ve read since that it took a deflection?).

Less said about Fabio the better. I hope for his and our sake he’s shipped out in January. For what it’s worth, I don’t think it’s a penalty, but when you look at your bench for a positive impact - he came on, made a foul within 30 seconds, did the old pat on the head, shake the hand of the opponent to make sure he’s ok (Ipswich anyone?), then gives away a penalty when he had quite a minute to clear it beforehand. Shocking. He doesn’t want to be here - sell him, loan him, whatever. There’s an argument that he’s our worst signing in modern day history when you look at the amount and his impact.

Back to the result - I mentioned this in the matchday thread, but beating Manchester City counts for absolutely nothing when you lose to a shower like Sheff Utd a few weeks later. It undos all of the hard work & the feel good vibe that had been created. We’ve got Spurs & Arsenal coming up and we will still be without Pedro. Our default against those kinds of club is to hit them on the break, but set up and play like yesterday and we’ll be comfortably beaten. Sure, there’s a gap between us and relegation at the moment, but it only takes a little run and before you know it, you’re looking over your shoulder again when really, we should have been looking up the table.

I hope GON can stumble across something that works until Neto returns, because I’ve started to really like the guy.
 
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First half was decent enough, some good opportunities and territory, but we obviously missed Neto a lot, we looked a different team and it definitely effected Hwang who was terrible first half and frankly cowardly second. Cunha did Cunha things, and Sasa unfortunately looked very much like somebody who can be dangerous for 20 minutes but pretty nothing for 90.

Doyle again didn't back up his excellent sub appearances when started.

If a formation or attacking strategy relies on quality and decision making in the final third from RAN and Semedo then it's a strategy that's destined to fail. Semedo in particular was incredibly frustrating.

Defending was OK largely but both goals are shit. For the first Kilman does his 'press someone aggressively but get nowhere near it' which leaves the hole for the jammy deflection. The winner was a wank corner to concede in the first place and then Silva had a couple of chances to clear before giving the ref a question to answer. He answered it incorrectly but masters of our own downfall. It's odd, in real time I thought it was a pen, and on a full speed replay I thought it was too. Obviously the slow mo replay show it to be soft as fuck, but it's one of them that won't be overturned which ever decision the ref makes. 'clear and obvious error' bullshit as opposed to 'look, what's the right decision with the benefit of all angles on replay'.

GON was very poor from minute 46 onwards, everything he did made things worse. The second half was absolutely shocking.

Silva...firstly the stuff he's getting on social media is outrageous and disgusting. He's a footballer and he's getting the kind of hatred that should be reserved for paedos ffs. Yes, he's shit. Yes, he's a pretty unlikeable persona. But sheesh. Football fans are really fucking horrible people sometimes.

Think some of the stuff on here has been a bit ott but not enough to get some of the pearl clutching reactions though. Fake tears is an odd hill to die on.

He was clearly very upset and I don't doubt for a second it was genuine, but what I do think is that the upset was for him rather than the club. I think it was more "fuck I really want to be a success and that's really hurt my chances" and less "fuck I could have cleared that and now I've cost my mates and the fans 2 points". He'll have a decent career bumbling around the French, Dutch and Belgian leagues I think, and if not will have the likes of Portugal and Greece to fall back on but the kid just hasn't got the quality. He's 21 but he's been in and around first team squads and men's football for 4 years now, and he hasn't improved at all. He's obviously physically stronger but even that's not actually showing in gameplay. Take the loss, learn your lessons, get him out of the club for his sake and outs.

GON has proved that the players buy into him and they're working for him. He's improved in the press and has us scoring more and looking better defensively when we play teams that attack. He need to show now that he can get points without Neto, that he's capable of a coherent attacking strategy. We didn't create a chance for Sasa, and only one for Hwang, and they're our only two finishers so that needs to be better.
 
GON has proved that the players buy into him and they're working for him. He's improved in the press and has us scoring more and looking better defensively when we play teams that attack. He need to show now that he can get points without Neto, that he's capable of a coherent attacking strategy.

I'm not sure about the defensive claim; we haven't kept a clean sheet in the league apart from the Everton game. I think we've tightened up a bit since the Ipswich game, which was the fourth time this season we'd conceded 3 or more goals.

I have a bad feeling that we're going to drop right off without Neto now, and that his form is really the reason for our recent upturn (which, of course, GON gets some credit for too). Need to find a front three combo that isn't such a huge drop-off in output
 
Sure, there’s a gap between us and relegation at the moment, but it only takes a little run and before you know it, you’re looking over your shoulder again when really, we should have been looking up the table.

I'd be surprised if we don't have periods of looking over our shoulder all season tbh; it's the nature of being a mid/lower-mid table side, which we undoubtedly are.

Maybe if Neto and O'Neil's ceilings surprise us all we could push towards the top 10 at some point, and maybe we'll get dragged down nearer the bottom 4 or 5 at some point if Gary shits the bed or we get more injuries, but we'll mostly bob around pretty much where we are imo
 
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