Sheff Utd 2-1 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I’ve finally seen the penalty from yesterday. It’s a shocker. Absolutely staggering that VAR allowed it.

 

[Jinky]

Whilst true, you're never going to beat all the teams you expect to beat, or lose to all the teams you expect to lose to. Swings and roundabouts.

I know. Otherwise we'd all be millionaires. But we also can't rely on beating Manchester City, or Spurs, or Arsenal etc every time we play them.

It's hardly a revolutionary point I'm making.

 

[Johnny75]

I know. Otherwise we'd all be millionaires. But we also can't rely on beating Manchester City, or Spurs, or Arsenal etc every time we play them.

It's hardly a revolutionary point I'm making.

Yet you seem offended nobody agrees with you.

 

[PuntsWolf]

We went away from home and lost in the last minute from a bad call by a player followed by a worse call from the officials. Their other goal was also a freak in how it occurred and then how he finished it.

We aren’t that good (particularly missing our stand out attacking player), I don’t think the rest of the footballing world see it as a massive shock. They’ve been in most their games, Spurs scored 2 injury time goals at home, City scored a late goal too. We should have took the lead but didn’t. We then got back into the game and should have walked away with the point but the farce at the end stopped it.

I thought the rest of your post was good @Jinky but that bit was entitled and melodramatic.

 

[The Bear]

I know. Otherwise we'd all be millionaires. But we also can't rely on beating Manchester City, or Spurs, or Arsenal etc every time we play them.

It's hardly a revolutionary point I'm making.

We're not relying on it though are we? Every manager, player and fan knows they have to take the majority of their points from the clubs around them.

 

[Jinky]

We're not relying on it though are we? Every manager, player and fan knows they have to take the majority of their points from the clubs around them.

So you agree with me? I'm pleased we had this chat.

 

[Haggstone]

So you agree with me? I'm pleased we had this chat.

Look, you made a very similar point yesterday on the match day thread. At the time, I put it down to the heat of the moment and left it at that. I was a little surprised that you then repeated pretty much the same thing again having had the chance to sleep on it. To be clear, YOU stated not once but twice, that a result against a top club 'counts for nothing' i felt on both oaccassions that was an OTT remark so responded as such the second time of asking. I simply put things into context and felt the need to mention your tendancy to over react in situations like this because that is clearly relevant. Its a pattern of behaviour that I felt worthy of mention.

 

[Johnny75]

Look, you made a very similar point yesterday on the match day thread. At the time, I put it down to the heat of the moment and left it at that. I was a little surprised that you then repeated pretty much the same thing again having had the chance to sleep on it. To be clear, YOU stated not once but twice, that a result against a top club 'counts for nothing' i felt on both oaccassions that was an OTT remark so responded as such the second time of asking. I simply put things into context and felt the need to mention your tendancy to over react in situations like this because that is clearly relevant. Its a pattern of behaviour that I felt worthy of mention.

Have you not met Jinky before?

 

[Jinky]

Well this is fun.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's pretty low down on the list of poor decisions, but it's another one, given how hard he walloped it (what a penalty by the way) theres no doubt he'd have been in the area before contact:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1721090240612335990

 

[Jeb01]

The only apology we've had was for the non penalty at Old Trafford (cost us a point)

The decisions against Luton, Newcastle and yesterday haven't and won't get an apology.

It's hard to say how many points they've cost us as you don't know how a game may end up.

Although you could argue:

1 point v United (penalty would have been last kick of game)
2 points v Luton
2 points v Newcastle
1 point v Sheff U

We, as a club, have suffered more than most this season (I think) from poor refereeing and even worse VAR decisions.
If the PL is a first class “product” it is being devalued by a third class officiating system.

Maybe Arsenal’s displeasure at events at Newcastle will add a heavyweight element to the debate.

For how much longer can PGMOL carry on with their failed system?

I don’t pretend to know the solution, but think two changes at least would help:-

1. Specialist VAR officials who work all the time at Stockley Park, and who are mainly if not entirely, former professional players who know exactly what is happening on the pitch.
2. We should hear the conversation in real time between the referees and VAR, as they do so well in cricket and rugby. This would also cut out the revolting “mateyness” of the current exchanges, which are both unprofessional and embarrassing.

Hopefully something will be done by or before the end of the season.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

He hit that penalty like he hit an early morning Expresso didn't he..

 

[Tony Towner]

Wolves defender Nelson Semedo: I no longer have confidence in officials

Nelson Semedo admits he no longer has confidence in the officials after Wolves were the victim of another controversial penalty decision.

www.expressandstar.com

 

[Alan]

Well, confidence does seem to be a bugbear of his.

 

[The Bear]

I took this myself off MOTD just. Just the two of them encroaching....

 

[Alan]

And Sá off his line tbf.

Unless I'm misremembering how that rule works. Possible.

 

[The Bear]

And Sá off his line tbf.

Back foot is over still.

 

[PuntsWolf]

Don’t think encroachment matters as he didn’t miss. If he misses and they rebound then different story

 

[BillyDee]

If an attacking player encroaches and a goal is scored it should be retaken. If the goal is missed it is a free kick.
If the defending team encroaches and it is missed it is retaken.

 

[big mean bunny]

And Sá off his line tbf.

Unless I'm misremembering how that rule works. Possible.

No thats fine. As long as part of your foot is still on its okay to take that spring step.