Refereeing question

[The Bear]

They must have similar styles of play.

 

[Kenny]

I expect that the FA will sort it out over the weekend and O'Shea will have to take the suspension.

Apparently O'Shea was telling the ref he had got it wrong. So question for you Franky lad - After showing the red card, could the ref have called Wes Brown back and then (correctly) sent off O'Shea or was he tied to the rules that he shown the red card and couldn't change that decision?

 

[Tony Towner]

Yes he could as long as he hadn't left the field of play. The same came up last year when the Gibbs and Ox situation happened

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Apparently O'Shea was telling the ref he had got it wrong. So question for your Franky lad - After showing the red card, could the ref have called Wes Brown back and then (correctly) sent off O'Shea or was he tied to the rules that he shown the red card and couldn't change that decision?

He could have called Brown back, but apparently after a discussion with the fourth official, the referee stood by his original decision. He will now have to advise the FA that he sent off the wrong player, which will not go down too well.

 

[Kenny]

He could have called Brown back, but apparently after a discussion with the fourth official, the referee stood by his original decision. He will now have to advise the FA that he sent off the wrong player, which will not go down too well.

Another ref from the M Jones school then.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Another ref from the M Jones school then.

Prepare to see him at Molineux...!

 

[The Bear]

At least it'll get overturned.

 

[Kenny]

Official (mini) statement on the sending off

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

 

[Kenny]

If the ref is directly behind that you can see how he got it wrong I guess

 

[Kenny]

"Roger East was lazy and lacked focus when he sent off Wes Brown, says Mark Halsey"


He has no place to tell any ref anything.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

The strange thing is that if Sunderland win their appeal, as they probably will, the suspension cannot change to another player. So neither Brown or O'Shea will miss any games.

 

[Kenny]

No ban for Wes Brown

 

[FrankMunro-371]

No ban for Wes Brown

And Roger East to referee at championship game or lower this weekend.

 

[Kenny]

And Roger East to referee at championship game or lower this weekend.

I actually think that is harsh on him. From his angle it was an easy mistake to make and his assistants couldn't help him out.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

I actually think that is harsh on him. From his angle it was an easy mistake to make and his assistants couldn't help him out.

Between the four of them they should have identified who committed the foul. Obviously the referee was not totally sure otherwise he would not have consulted with the others. Mr East then continued to insist he had sent off the right player, when he should really have held his hands up and said he got it wrong.

 

[darlowolf64]

Between the four of them they should have identified who committed the foul. Obviously the referee was not totally sure otherwise he would not have consulted with the others. Mr East then continued to insist he had sent off the right player, when he should really have held his hands up and said he got it wrong.

Should a Penalty have been awarded? Yes
Did the foul deny a clear goalscoring chance? Yes
Should the Sunderland player receive a straight red card? Yes

The referee got everything right EXCEPT the player who deserved to go. From his view the foul was committed by Brown. He should of checked a replay and owned up to making the error, so his "crime" is just plain stubbonness as he refused to admit his mistake. Referees need to realise that they are human and admitting to a mistake is a much better option than pig-headedness.
Rightly dropped down from the Premier League for that reason but PLEASE, not to us!

 

[Kenny]

Mr East then continued to insist he had sent off the right player, when he should really have held his hands up and said he got it wrong.

Did he do that when giving his reasons to the panel? I can understand him sticking to his original decision if his assistants could not tell him he had got it wrong. John O'Shea was telling him he was wrong, so he checked but his assistants came up with nothing so he had to stick with his original decision didn't he.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Did he do that when giving his reasons to the panel? I can understand him sticking to his original decision if his assistants could not tell him he had got it wrong. John O'Shea was telling him he was wrong, so he checked but his assistants came up with nothing so he had to stick with his original decision didn't he.

As I understand it, he refused to admit that he sent off the wrong player.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Which made it worse. If he had the balls to admit the mistaken identity then the card could been rightfully transferred. By coming out with this nonsense he has ensured that Sunderland don't have a player suspended for three matches at all. Bet the other bottom teams are delighted about that.