Refereeing question

[The Bear]

Personally I can't see refs changing their mind on any marginal or debatable decision and making themselves look stupid just to appease a raging swearing manager.

If it's a blatant error then fine but you don't get many of those.

 

[YoungWolf]

I don't understand how it works.

So if like Johnny mentioned you check it when the ball goes out of play. What if the decision is over a throw in for example, the ball stays in play for two minutes and the break in play is a goal. Goal disallowed and throw in to the other team? Football is too random for this type of system I think.

 

[Johnny75]

I don't understand how it works.

So if like Johnny mentioned you check it when the ball goes out of play. What if the decision is over a throw in for example, the ball stays in play for two minutes and the break in play is a goal. Goal disallowed and throw in to the other team? Football is too random for this type of system I think.

Yep, that's exactly what happens, but the throw would have to be taken very fast for that to happen as the manager would throw his flag/ alert the ref.

 

[slink]

The day that happens might be the day i end watching/liking football, i think we're on the way to ruining a game by trying to make it perfect. Mistakes are made and for me if we're going to manufacture delays in games then i'll take mistakes over managers throwing flags for a review.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'd much rather concentrate on improving the standard of refereeing. Look at the joker in the Germany vs Scotland game last night, completely bottles sending Durm off and then gives Mulgrew a second yellow which made no sense at all. Rather than having some arbitrary system whereby video evidence overturns some of the glaring errors (but not any where a challenge has been used up), let's make sure they aren't making so many in the first place.

To go back to Steve Bruce and his interminable bleating - I guarantee you that long before Stoke scored their equaliser the other week vs Hull which came off a dodgy throw-in decision, he'd have used up his challenge on Chester's red card. He'd take the gamble that he might have got a nick on the ball before taking Whelan out and if he did then that means you aren't down to 10 so early on. Then he'd piss and moan about the goal anyway because that's what he does. How long before the stance is taken that if we can review some decisions, why don't we review all of them? If we're aspiring for perfection and all that.

 

[slink]

Agree with all that DW, said it much better than i could have.

 

[vicarious wolf]

Whatever this referral system is, and no matter how it will work, Tony Pulis has already spotted the loophole.

 

[NorwayFB]

Look at the joker in the Germany vs Scotland game last night, completely bottles sending Durm off and then gives Mulgrew a second yellow which made no sense at all.

Not Moen's finest evening refereeing,overlooked a German penalty too.Durm looked a red for me,Mulgrew's 2nd yellow was correct imo.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He took the shot less than a second after the ref blew for the freekick, and why would he be seeking to timewaste when Scotland were 2-1 down with 90 seconds to go? It was petty, jobsworth stuff. Very much in keeping with the rest of his performance so at least he was consistent.

 

[NorwayFB]

He took the shot less than a second after the ref blew for the freekick, and why would he be seeking to timewaste when Scotland were 2-1 down with 90 seconds to go? It was petty, jobsworth stuff. Very much in keeping with the rest of his performance so at least he was consistent.

I agree he didn't have to give it even tho I think it was correct.What's this jobsworth thing anyway? Makes no sense to me,much like unplayable now means good.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Derived from the phrase "I can't do that, it's more than my job's worth"; A person who uses their job description in a deliberately uncooperative way, or who seemingly delights in acting in an obstructive or unhelpful manner; taking the initiative and performing an action, and perhaps in the process breaking a rule, is beyond what the person feels their job description allows. "A person in authority (esp. a minor official) who insists on adhering to rules and regulations or bureaucratic procedures even at the expense of common sense." "A minor factotum whose only status comes from enforcing otherwise petty regulations".

 

[darlowolf64]

I agree he didn't have to give it even tho I think it was correct.What's this jobsworth thing anyway? Makes no sense to me,much like unplayable now means good.

Jobsworth...."I had to do it, it's more than my jobs worth to not give that decision"
The Oxford English Dictionary defines it as "A person in authority (esp. a minor official) who insists on adhering to rules and regulations or bureaucratic procedures even at the expense of common sense."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jobsworth

 

[NorwayFB]

Thanks guys,had never seen that word until it started popping up here.

 

[Sniffer]

Thanks guys,had never seen that word until it started popping up here.

You obviously didn't watch That's Life with Esther Rantzen back in the day then? Perhaps her teeth were too much for a Norwegian audience.

 

[NorwayFB]

You obviously didn't watch That's Life with Esther Rantzen back in the day then? Perhaps her teeth were too much for a Norwegian audience.

I did not,most likely not on TV here.

I did however watch her episode of Who do you think you are,does that mean anything?

 

[darlowolf64]

I did not,most likely not on TV here.

I did however watch her episode of Who do you think you are,does that mean anything?

It means you probably have too much time on your hands!

 

[NorwayFB]

It means you probably have too much time on your hands!

That's true,plus my time management skillz are very poor.

 

[Sniffer]

I did not,most likely not on TV here.

I did however watch her episode of Who do you think you are,does that mean anything?

No.

There was a 'Jobsworth' award in Thats Life that awarded a golden hat to a person who had excelled in such a role. Deutsch will send one over to your referee.

 

[NorwayFB]

No.

There was a 'Jobsworth' award in Thats Life that awarded a golden hat to a person who had excelled in such a role. Deutsch will send one over to your referee.

That's Life,for me,is a Sham 69 album!Moen is not 'my' referee but I'm happy he gets an award.

 

[FrankMunro-371]

Graham Poll is in favour of referrals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29122495