O'Neil Confirmed

[1986]

I know. But I'm talking about right now.

Fair enough , but is there not an element of us getting above our station with the reaction to O'Neil .

It's almost as if people think we should be shopping at Harrods when looking for a Manager , and anything less than that is to be ridiculed . Yes we had two 7th place finishes , but other clubs that are not that fashionable had damn good finishes as well - Leicester as one example , West Ham is another .

If O' Neil fails completely during the first ten matches ( and it's a tough run ) , then maybe , but let's hold fire till then .

 

[Wolvensam]

I just don't think we could afford a Harrods-style manager either. I was shocked we were forking out £10m per season for Lopetegui and his staff - he must have been one of the best paid coaches in the league.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Fair enough , but is there not an element of us getting above our station with the reaction to O'Neil .

It's almost as if people think we should be shopping at Harrods when looking for a Manager , and anything less than that is to be ridiculed . Yes we had two 7th place finishes , but other clubs that are not that fashionable had damn good finishes as well - Leicester as one example , West Ham is another .

If O' Neil fails completely during the first ten matches ( and it's a tough run ) , then maybe , but let's hold fire till then .

Good to see Fosun's management of fan expectation has worked....

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I just don't think we could afford a Harrods-style manager either. I was shocked we were forking out £10m per season for Lopetegui and his staff - he must have been one of the best paid coaches in the league.

That's a contradiction though isn't it, because as recently as 9 months we could afford this.

So we've gone from Harrods to Scope in one appointment.

 

[Wolvensam]

That's a contradiction though isn't it, because as recently as 9 months we could afford this.

So we've gone from Harrods to Scope in one appointment.

I wouldn't be surprised if the mantra was "fuck it we're gonna get relegated if we don't do this". Which in itself is idiocy when you think FFP isn't a problem that's occurred overnight. I put it in the same bracket as buying Cunha for £25m.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

That's a contradiction though isn't it, because as recently as 9 months we could afford this.

So we've gone from Harrods to Scope in one appointment.

Scope raise money for a really important cause, Harrod’s make money for a very wealthy elite. I will shop in Scope without any feelings of it being inferior.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Scope raise money for a really important cause, Harrod’s make money for a very wealthy elite. I will shop in Scope without any feelings of it being inferior.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I wouldn't be surprised if the mantra was "fuck it we're gonna get relegated if we don't do this". Which in itself is idiocy when you think FFP isn't a problem that's occurred overnight. I put it in the same bracket as buying Cunha for £25m.

Cunha was £44mill.

Suggesting to people they're entitled for thinking O'Neil has got a job above his station is condescending to say the least.

He was sacked by Bournemouth and Sheff Wed weren't interested enough to take him on.

As a mid table prem club we should have been/should be looking at someone with a stronger track record. That's not entitlement, that's just common sense, other supporters are/were surprised at how underwhelming this appointment was.

Remember Lee Carsley was also another candidate that was considered.

 

[The Dude]

That's a contradiction though isn't it, because as recently as 9 months we could afford this.

So we've gone from Harrods to Scope in one appointment.

That's the thing, we couldn't afford it...

We couldn't afford to spend over £100m in Cunha/Nunes/Guedes either.

Whoever rubber stamped these deals should be facing a Shanghai firing squad...

At the time it was champions league level fees we were paying (before every man and his dog were worth £100m).

I like Cunha and Nunes but we paid through the nose for them, so much so it looks dodgy. We appeared to spend about £25m too much for Guedes.

Now the club and the fans are paying for it.

 

[The Dude]

I wouldn't be surprised if the mantra was "fuck it we're gonna get relegated if we don't do this". Which in itself is idiocy when you think FFP isn't a problem that's occurred overnight. I put it in the same bracket as buying Cunha for £25m.

If we'd paid £25m for Cunha it would have been astute.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Cunha was £44mill.

Suggesting to people they're entitled for thinking O'Neil has got a job above his station is condescending to say the least.

He was sacked by Bournemouth and Sheff Wed weren't interested enough to take him on.

As a mid table prem club we should have been/should be looking at someone with a stronger track record. That's not entitlement, that's just common sense, other supporters are/were surprised at how underwhelming this appointment was.

Remember Lee Carsley was also another candidate that was considered.

We were looking at someone with a much stronger track record but he decided to fuck off a few weeks before the start of the season. I guess we could have re-appointed our caretaker again and waited but I don’t see a lot of decent alternatives out there and we wouldn’t be man potential manager’s option A a few days before the season starts and without a pot to piss in.

For me, the entitlement is in the phrase “just common sense” which infers that anyone who doesn’t engage in repetitive condemnation of this appointment lacks “common sense”.

 

[Wolvensam]

Cunha was £44mill.

Even worse...

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Saying we could have appointed someone better than GON, (especially given the 10 day timescale we had) is far from controversial.

I'd have been disappointed with the O'Neil appointment if we were in the Champsionship.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

We were looking at someone with a much stronger track record but he decided to fuck off a few weeks before the start of the season. I guess we could have re-appointed our caretaker again and waited but I don’t see a lot of decent alternatives out there and we wouldn’t be man potential manager’s option A a few days before the season starts and without a pot to piss in.

For me, the entitlement is in the phrase “just common sense” which infers that anyone who doesn’t engage in repetitive condemnation of this appointment lacks “common sense”.

Which managers in the Prem do you believe O'Neil to be better than?

 

[The Saturday Boy]

Which managers in the Prem do you believe O'Neil to be better than?

How is that relevant to anything I have posted?

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

How is that relevant to anything I have posted?

I'm just wondering at what level you think Wolves are operating at with this appointment. Given how defensive you are.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I'm just wondering at what level you think Wolves are operating at with this appointment. Given how defensive you are.

I think we are in the shit, but that’s not based on the managerial appointment. And I thought I was being mildly offensive, funny how people see things differently.

 

[HanDoJin]

I'm not exactly delighted with O'Neil, but he's got more Premier League experience than at least 4 others in the division and outlasted 'bigger' names last season that people were hyping last August *waves at Viera*

 

[lemonjelly]

I'd have been more than happy with Viera. Feel he did ok at palace tbh. Don't think he'd accept the restrictions at wolves now though.

 

[Wolvensam]

I'm not exactly delighted with O'Neil, but he's got more Premier League experience than at least 4 others in the division and outlasted 'bigger' names last season that people were hyping last August *waves at Viera*

Indeed. Viera was quite 'done over' by Palace though: very much went in with the focus being on bringing young players through and focussing on developing them as opposed to achieving lofty heights in the Prem. He'd have been a good fit for us.

I think some of the beef around O'Neil as well is Lop was very much an ambitious appointment: we could start dreaming of top 10 again. Not saying O'Neil won't achieve that (unlikely in the circumstances) but I get the impression it's what O'Neil represents in terms of ambition as opposed to what and who he actually is (though I'm sure posters have issue with that, too).