Live Match Discussion 2022/23

[Johnny75]

But that's not 2 groups of consenting adults is it? There's others involved.

What I mean is, fuck off to a field somewhere and have a punch up in the name of some kind of bragging rights if they want. Not really my cup of tea but there's people who like watching golf and neither is that.

Get them to sign a waiver and have their own medical insurance. If one of them dies, tough shit?

Are you for real?

 

[Banjo]

Loved the play off game last night. An amazingly entertaining match.

Felt weird - an ex-Wolves player v an ex-Albion player in the dugout, and I really wanted the ex-Albion player to win as I find him so likeable!!

Don't give a shit about his faith - if it helps him (which it clearly does) then what's the problem? No-one has to agree with his feelings on the issue and he's clearly very well liked and respected by his players and his contemporaries. I couldn't disagree more with his thoughts on religion but I respect his views and if it helps him with aspects of his job and his life, fair dos.

I agree with all of that, I just found him using his post match interview as a platform to espouse his faith in terms which suggest his god is objectively real was a bit odd. It's something I'd expect from an American sportsperson / Oscar winner, but I just feel in the UK it's culturally the case that we keep our religious views private.

 

[prawnking]

Blessed are the meek

 

[WsWolf]

Get them to sign a waiver and have their own medical insurance. If one of them dies, tough shit?

Are you for real?

That's their own problem isn't it.

People ride bicycles without medical insurance, I've had 10 boxing matches without it.

 

[Trips]

After a game like that last night, where his players pulled out something incredible, Moore's first thought was to thank god.

As I said I find that disrespectful to the players, and also if I was religious, disrespectful to God, as in why would God bother himself with influencing the result of a football match?

Surely if you believe in God, then you believe he is everywhere and lookin after everything. So he would be influencing the result of the game?

 

[Johnny75]

Surely if you believe in God, then you believe he is everywhere and lookin after everything. So he would be influencing the result of the game?

Guess the opposition don't believe in God enough to win.

 

[Jack Regan]

Barnsley v Bolton has been pretty execrable. Sheffield Wednesday should beat either of them on those display.

 

[ROVERT47]

The usual picture of a young kid (Bolton fan) about 6 or 7 blarting, does my fucking head in, pretty sure my pair didn’t know the difference between winning or losing at that age.

 

[Templeton Peck]

Always catches me off guard how much that kind of thing annoys y’all.

Y'all love a bit of God over there though. Not such a big deal here thankfully.

 

[prawnking]

Surely if you believe in God, then you believe he is everywhere and lookin after everything. So he would be influencing the result of the game?

He won't stop kids getting nonced but he'll make sure that penalty gets missed

 

[Alan]

Surely if you believe in God, then you believe he is everywhere and lookin after everything. So he would be influencing the result of the game?

Yes and no, personally I rationalize this disconnect by throwing competition under free will.

Telling people not to thank god, whether you share the belief or not, feels worryingly similar to “you can love who you want as long I don’t know about it”.

Second point not directed at anyone specific, just an observation of parallels in the rhetoric.

 

[Banjo]

Yes and no, personally I rationalize this disconnect by throwing competition under free will.

Telling people not to thank god, whether you share the belief or not, feels worryingly similar to “you can love who you want as long I don’t know about it”.

Second point not directed at anyone specific, just an observation of parallels in the rhetoric.

It's the assumption that we all accept the existence of this entity that's being spoken about as if it's objectively real that feels really.. off. If someone were to say, "I believe in God, so what I believe is that He gave me strength today to achieve x, y, z" then it would be far less objectionable to me (if at all) than someone declaring "Thank you God for this achievement". I just find it to be presumptuous, imposing, and not very inclusive language.

 

[Alan]

I guess I’d say that if you don’t treat it as objective, not much point having faith in it. Personally I’d be much more put off if the implication was that others should also be thanking god, which just the statement of thanks doesn’t mean, IMV.

Not really trying to persuade anyone to see it my way tbh. Accept the UK’s historical relationship with religion and Christian theism specifically is fraught with nuances I can’t understand as, well, not a British person.

 

[prawnking]

Telling people not to thank god, whether you share the belief or not, feels worryingly similar to “you can love who you want as long I don’t know about it”.

Saying it's lame and weird isn't the same as telling them not to do it.

I wouldn't compare religion to sexuality either. Generally speaking, one is a choice.

 

[Alan]

Saying it's lame and weird isn't the same as telling them not to do it.

I wouldn't compare religion to sexuality either. Generally speaking, one is a choice.

“Lame and weird” are far from the strongest things said about it recently tbf.

Comparing the rhetoric, not the subject.

 

[Alan]

Dunno why I always poke the bear on this tbh. Not even religious myself. Guess the cultural difference between us just fascinates me.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The sexuality comparison is absolute fucking bollocks and more than a little insulting to atheists.

 

[Alan]

The sexuality comparison is absolute fucking bollocks and more than a little insulting to atheists.

Comparing the rhetoric, not the subject.

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[Paddingtonwolf]

And the rhetoric is completely different.

 

[Alan]

"Keep your religion where I can't see it or hear it" is not so different, is it.