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Let's talk about Nuno....

Saw this doing the rounds on Twitter. The top one is 2010/11 under Mick, the bottom, this season.

It shows how utterly dependent we are on Raul and the complete lack of goals in the side from other sources.

We're going to need to average nearly two goals a game for the final 5 where we play 3 of the top 6 in order to match the output of a team that didn't win a game in its final 3 months.
2011/12, not 2010/11 :)

All true, but two things:

1) As shite as that team was, it did contain a striker who still scored 12 goals. Hey, if we'd signed him in January of *this* year he'd probably have ended up our top scorer. Would have been worth it too to see the meltdown from some of our idiots, plus I'd never have had to swear at the TV watching Willian José "run".

2) We conceded 82 goals, I should think we'll avoid slipping near that mark. The 2011/12 team didn't score enough (bar Fletcher and Jarvis) AND couldn't defend for toffee. Although you wouldn't know it from watching West Ham x2, Burnley home, Liverpool away etc, we can actually defend competently a lot of the time. Doesn't happen when all three centre halves play like the lovechild of Manuel Thetis and Eric Young.
 
Bad news in the context of this discussion, Euro 2020/21 squads are going to be 26 man.

I guess that means the likes of Semedo or Traore (less likely) could squeeze into squads when they wouldn't have before.

It also means Coady is nailed on if he wasn't already.
 
Yep, that's Coady in. You can afford him to go just on his leadership alone now. I hope England use the extra spots on the likes of Bellingham and Saka for experience rather than Dier or Winks to just pad the squad out
 
They wouldn't have been though or at least weren't in most predictions.
 
Can someone cut and paste its behind a paywall for me.
It is nearly four years since Nuno Espirito Santo first grabbed Wolverhampton Wanderers by the shirt collar, gave them an almighty shake and sparked a revolution that would win hearts and minds.
Promotion to the Premier League, a daring FA Cup run and European excursions have been delivered in that time, indelible memories which have put this famous old club back on the map.
There was always going to come a time when Nuno’s magic carpet ride of progress suffered turbulence and, finally, here we are. This season is proving to be excruciating.
The wimpish 4-0 home defeat to Burnley on Sunday was their worst performance under the Portuguese and has triggered inevitable fury, with the future of the head coach now being openly debated and questions over where Wolves go from here.
Frustration from supporters has only increased due to their absence from matches, with the negativity perceived as another classic example of a modern-day fanbase with short memories.
Yet, in truth, this has been building up for a while. Two successive seventh-placed finishes were always going to be difficult to match, but there have been signs of Wolves losing their direction and momentum for some time.
The football has been low on entertainment (and goals), key players are underperforming, and the recruitment is coming under scrutiny.

Key reasons for the slump​

Nuno will undoubtedly point to matters out of his control as significant. This entire season has been played amid a pandemic and when Nuno refers to the absence of fans as a major factor it is not the equivalent of seeking ‘likes’ on Twitter.
He has been away from his family, who live in Porto, for much of the past 12 months and management is a lonely existence, against a backdrop of fears over their health and well-being. More than perhaps anyone at Wolves, he needs a break to recharge.
On the field, Nuno cannot have expected such poor fortune.
The loss of Raul Jimenez, who sustained a fractured skull in November, has been so costly and easily on a level with Tottenham being without Harry Kane or Leicester without Jamie Vardy.
His goals, link-up play and versatility have been impossible to replace. While Jimenez is still targeting a first-team return this season, there is a growing feeling that it would be far more sensible to wait until next season.

Wolves have undoubtedly missed Raul Jimenez, who has been out since suffering a sickening head injury against Arsenal last November

In Jimenez’s place, the attacking players have struggled. There are still high hopes for Fabio Silva, the teenager signed for £35 million in September, but this season was always going to be too soon for him.
Willian Jose has failed to impress after he was parachuted into the Premier League in January, scoring just one goal.
Other injuries have been costly too. Jonny, the Spanish wing-back, has suffered two serious injuries in the space of eight months. Pedro Neto is arguably their player of the season, revelling in the challenge of helping Wolves in the absence of Jimenez, but will not return until next season after fracturing his patella. Daniel Podence missed two months earlier this year with an abductor injury.
And what of Wolves’ recruitment, which has been so widely admired since Nuno’s appointment?
His calculated gamble to sell Diogo Jota and Matt Doherty last summer has drawn some criticism, but was a move designed to usher in a new style of football more based on possession.
With Jota’s departure to Liverpool, Wolves were convinced Neto and Podence would step up and, in fairness, both those players have shown they can perform at this level.
Doherty had one year left on his contract at the age of 28 so Tottenham’s bid of £15 million was seen as decent business.
Nelson Semedo, the former Barcelona wing-back, has shown glimpses of promise in Doherty’s place but appears to have been shoehorned into the team, which is finding a new identity. Vitinha and Ki-Jana Hoever have barely figured.
Rayan Ait-Nouri, a loan signing from Angers, produced an outstanding debut against Crystal Palace but his form has fluctuated, though Wolves would point to the fact that he is still only 19.

Where do Wolves go from here?​

Their owners, Fosun, are close to their five-year anniversary and remain fully committed, referencing "the next 20 years" in interviews last summer.
It is understood that they are unaffected by the financial issues encountered by some other Premier League investors based in China.
Funds will be made available this summer, though Wolves may have to raise more money by offloading players. That raises the prospect of players who need a fresh start, such as Ruben Neves, Willy Boly or Morgan Gibbs-White, pursuing new challenges next season.
Negotiations remain ongoing with Adama Traore over a new contract and there remains hope that he will sign. If talks do break down, Wolves would look for a substantial fee.
The policy will be similar to last year: no player will be sold unless a replacement can be found, or is already in the club. The club’s recruitment and scouting system will be widened.
Replacing Nuno at this stage would also be a huge risk. His future has been called into question but it is understood that he is hungry to “go again” next season, feeling a responsibility to rebuild the club for a second successive year and take them on another upward trajectory.
He signed a new three-year deal last September and, surely, deserves patience and time to find new solutions.
With five games left to play, including their derby against West Brom next Monday, Wolves need to finish with a flourish and provide some hope for the future.
Nuno certainly needs that old Wolverhampton motto, Out of Darkness Cometh Light, to prove accurate.

There you go GW.
 
It’s been widely observed that the reason Dyche hasn’t been offered jobs at bigger teams because his success is built on a particular style of football and I can see the logic of that, though I think with better players he’d still be very successful. Nuno gets a lot of credit for two 7th places finishes, let’s not forget Dyche achieved one at Burnley with far less resources.

Is expecting Nuno to bring in a possession-based style really much different and if that’s the way the club want to go is a manager who has never played that way really the right person to do it. The more I think of our limp first half displays the more I feel Nuno isn’t really comfortable away from his comfort zone.
 
Dyche does a good job with the same core group of players, playing a well drilled style which suits them, in some ways that's comparable with Nuno in the first PL seasons. I don't think he's looking to change as his signings tend to fit what he does - all in their mid 20's all runners. There also hasn't been any pressure on him to do so either from fams or ownership - too early to judge with the new ones.

I think our style transformation has been overblown or at least what was required has been. What was needed was an alternative to playing on the counter - when the other team lets you have the ball. The talk is of a more possession based game, but I think that's a bit of a red herring - it was about 'finding solutions' against sides who already let us have it but we just passed it about between ourselves not knowing what to do with it. That's where in theory a Neto, Podence and Semedo could do something that a Jota and Doherty can't.

A combination of injuries, form and yes coaching has led to that broadly failing and evolving as sides have started to press us higher and we've looked uncomfortable and give the ball away - elements of that have come with us being also rans, the mentality of playing Wolves is different as a mid table side. That's now here to stay until such a time teams worry about how we play/we learn to beat the high press
 
Wolves piece in The Athletic not written by Tim seems quite unusual. I thought he was their exclusive Wolves writer?
 
Kay does general football so if he thinks something is interesting he writes about it, just that it's normally on one of the usual suspects, who also have their own dedicated reporter.

I guess it's the power of being woeful in front of a larger than usual audience.


The Sun are going with Nuno to Spurs and Bruno Lage to Wolves, although their story suggests that's more a Mendes wish than a reality.
 
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Not sure why they are going with Nuno to Spurs, it's not going to happen, his stock isn't as high now after this season despite some of the mitigating circumstances - I can't imagine he is high up on their list and with Nuno recently signing a deal here and his comments I don't think he would want to leave. I think at the moment there is a Twitter version of a vocal minority who want Nuno out but I think most people still want to give him more time to turn it around. It will be interesting if we put in another drab performance and lose on Monday how much that changes though.

Regardless of what happens, would not want Lage.
 
On the Lage point if and when the time comes for Nuno to leave for whatever reason, if he is replaced by him, Marco Silva or whichever other failure Mendes gets out of the cupboard then for the first time I'll agree that he has too much influence
 
Lage did very well at Benfica for a while didn’t he? And they were meant to be very good to watch I think
 
Lage did very well at Benfica for a while didn’t he? And they were meant to be very good to watch I think
He was only there 1 season and finished his time at Benfica with a 2 wins in 13 record. When you've got one of the best set of personnel available to you in the league that's unacceptable.

No thanks.

The guy at Sporting (Amorim), if we were going down that route, would be a far better choice.

Edit: Having said that, people who like goals will love Lage. They might not always be at the right end though.
 
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Lage looked like a genius when Benfica had João Félix ripping the league up and an idiot after they sold him to Atleti.

He did some very weird things at Benfica. Adel Taraabt in central midfield, kept picking shit like Seferovic, Pizzi & Almeida and threw the league away to a pretty poor Porto side.
 
He was only there 1 season and finished his time at Benfica with a 2 wins in 13 record. When you've got one of the best set of personnel available to you in the league that's unacceptable.

No thanks.

The guy at Sporting (Amorim), if we were going down that route, would be a far better choice.

Edit: Having said that, people who like goals will love Lage. They might not always be at the right end though.
Amorim would be perfect. Don't think he is any more but he was a Mendes client when he was a player. Has only recently signed a new contract with Sporting though and there's been some controversy over the fact that he hasn't got his coaching badges yet.

Plays an attacking 3-4-3 so wouldn't be too much upheaval for us as well. The front 3 are usually Nuno Santos and Pote behind a striker like Sporar (moved to Braga now. The same guy who scored against us for Slovan Bratislava) or Paulinho (ex Braga striker we were linked with in the summer).
 
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