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Jeremy Corbyn

.@johnmcdonnellMP says Corbyn's £100bn election offer to write off student debt is just "an ambition" adding "it's very difficult" #marr
 
They never promised that current students would have their debt written off at all. Corbyn had said before he would 'try'. It's future students that they want to provide free education to first and foremost..

Me and a couple of friends were discussing tuition fees the other day and we all agreed we found it quite offensive that people thoughts young voters had turned out because of the scrapping of fees that Corbyn and Labour had proposed.

Actually, it's not even near our list of priorities at he moment. In fact, the loan is set up in such a way (as discussed on here before) in that it works mostly very well. Would I prefer to not have the debt, probably, but I'm more concerned about the amount of people using food banks, and not being paid what they deserve because of 'tough decisions' that Theresa May says they have to make. Funny how those tough decisions never make the rich worse off.
 
YoungWolf said:
Me and a couple of friends were discussing tuition fees the other day and we all agreed we found it quite offensive that people thoughts young voters had turned out because of the scrapping of fees that Corbyn and Labour had proposed.

Actually, it's not even near our list of priorities at he moment. In fact, the loan is set up in such a way (as discussed on here before) in that it works mostly very well. Would I prefer to not have the debt, probably, but I'm more concerned about the amount of people using food banks, and not being paid what they deserve because of 'tough decisions' that Theresa May says they have to make. Funny how those tough decisions never make the rich worse off.
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Sorry, but I think most families that had to pay £9000 tuition fees in September this year would have got their kids to register to vote and and could well of changed their own voting intentions and of their kids grandparent's voting intentions, etc. To suggest that the majority of kids, who had never given a fuck about food banks, etc before all of a sudden in record amounts of numbers, including hundreds of thousands on the last day of voting registration, did it because of food banks and being all of a sudden kind hearted citizens, is being quite disingenuous with the truth. You or even you and your mates might be the new mother Theresa, but the £9000 saving in September, is why the vast majority of young new voters, would have voted Labour.
 
That's you told Louie, you're not allowed to have a social conscience.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
That's you told Louie, you're not allowed to have a social conscience.
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I did say he has, but to suggest that most young people registered to vote because of food banks and not having to pay £9000 in September, is laughable. I agree with abolishing tuition fees and thought it was a brilliant vote winner, but hundreds of thousands of young voters registering on the last day, was highly unlikely to have been because all of a sudden the young care about other people and not the £9000 that would be coming out of their, or their families pockets is highly unbelievable. I
 
No-one would be paying £9000 in September, so anyone voting with that in mind is a moron.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
I am so glad that THM is here to tell us all why we vote in a certain way
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Sorry Paddy, It was young Wolf who said why young people had voted and that £9000 wasn't on "their list priorities". If he had of said just him and the people he knows, then that is fair enough, but he didn't.
It is common sense that hundreds of thousands of new young voters didn't register in the last days before the voting registration closed, because of food banks and social conscious, when it is much more likely it was because that they wouldn't have to pay £9000 in September.
 
But you don't know. He had a vox pop of people in that group and asked them.

You didn't. So don't put words in those people's mouths without any knowledge or proof. Especially as your £9000 in September argument is fucking bollocks.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
But you don't know. He had a vox pop of people in that group and asked them.

You didn't. So don't put words in those people's mouths without any knowledge or proof. Especially as your £9000 in September argument is $#@!ing bollocks.
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My point is a very valid one. He didn't speak about his mates, but about the young in general. Hundreds of thousands of new young voters in last days of registration, because of a new found social conscious?
That is hilarious.
 
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Damn, I thought I had people fooled. Who do I think I am, as a student, compared to some guy in Spain who has his finger on the pulse anyway...

A) I didn't say all students voted the way they may have done because of food banks, I said why I had (big difference there, I would think) and also speaking to my friends and many other students who think it is stupid to say students only voted Labour because of the proposal to abolish tuition fees.

In fact, most students who do vote will ALREADY be students at university and therefore have paid tuition fees already and seeing as Corbyn, as I already pointed out' said he would try not promise to write off debt and McDonnell have said that would it would be a hard task.

Equally, your idea that families will have been urging their kids to vote so that they don't have to pay £9000 pound is pretty laughable due to the fact that a) As Mark pointed out no-one would be paying that much in September anyway and b) hardly any families are the ones actually paying it!??? My Mum and Dad didn't just reluctantly stump up nine grand for me to go to university, there's this thing called the tuition loan? Which has fuck all to do with my family.
 
What is actually hilarious is you deciding why a group of approaching 1 million people voted the way they did, based on a premise that is actually incorrect and won't back down when people pick you up on it.
 
Paddingtonwolf said:
What is actually hilarious is you deciding why a group of approaching 1 million people voted the way they did, based on a premise that is actually incorrect and won't back down when people pick you up on it.
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It was him who decided. Read his post. I said it is laughable that all of a sudden hundreds of people registered because of food banks. It is much more likely it was because of tuition fees and even he said this is what most people think. Do you know why most people think it? It is because it is common sense.
 
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