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[Paddingtonwolf]

Interesting that the article also makes reference to the rise of dissent. Who could imagine that a succession of appalling decisions would lead to players and management publicly getting pissed off?

 

[fansagainstvar]

The answer to VAR being rubbish is they want more VAR

It has killed the sport and lots of people can see that.

 

[PuntsWolf]

In a world where those two decisions go against you is disgraceful. Pre VAR you win one you lose one. To lose both!?

 

[Tony Towner]

In a world where those two decisions go against you is disgraceful. Pre VAR you win one you lose one. To lose both!?

The second penalty is the worst one of the season for me, because all the others were given on the field so in a none VAR world we are still in the same situation.

 

[Tredman]

Having had to whatsapp people watching at home to have a clue what was happening on Saturday night I would disagree - VAR is fundamentally not fit for purpose for match going fans. Fuck it off

Still this.

 

[fansagainstvar]

@Johnny75. Just wondering if you've realised VAR will never work in a subjective game yet

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The issue tonight is fucking Twatwell

 

[Tredman]

There’s always an excuse for VAR mistakes. Easier to not have it and not need an excuse.

 

[Alan]

@Johnny75. Just wondering if you've realised VAR will never work in a subjective game yet

Totally needless, this.

 

[Tony Towner]

Totally needless, this.

It is, but so is saying the issue is person x,y,z or PGMOL or UEFA or whoever else you want to point the finger at. There's always someone or something

 

[Alan]

Only the tagging was my issue.

On VAR, I'm squarely in the "no longer talking about it" camp. My previous position is clearly untenable.

 

[YoungWolf]

I would limit it to (semi automated) offsides and off the ball incidents but there’s no going back now

 

[darlowolf64]

Genie is out of the bottle and it won’t be going back in… PGMOL need to fuck off the nonsense that is “clear and obvious” and the referees need to have the balls to tell “their mates” that they are wrong.
Unlikely to happen though

 

[Johnny75]

I would limit it to (semi automated) offsides and off the ball incidents but there’s no going back now

I think you have to have the penalty decisions in. But the system isn't working with the current personnel.

 

[jd1981]

Webb should be speaking to Atwell first thing and asking him to explain his consistency and upholding “ clear & Obvious” was like a pic n mix tonight. A result that feels manufactured.
As some have said you either go to the monitor on both or neither of them.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Webb should be going to Atwell and basically sacking him frankly

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Webb should be going to Atwell and basically sacking him frankly

Webb should be stepping fucking down tomorrow, or actively look at sacking off the main offenders.

 

[Sniffer]

Webb said after the Newcastle one that in those scenarios the ref should be sent to the screen. Pratwells looked at the first one tonight for 3 minutes and decided to go against the very recent advice of Webb. He should be taken off duty full stop. On top of that the head butt decision is ludicrous as it goes against the rules. You can debate subjective ones but that one is just ridiculous.

 

[Lupo]

VAR to be extended? Sounds great...

Fears of more delays as VAR could rule on corners and free kicks

Giving video referees scope to make more decisions, including on second yellow cards, will be discussed at Ifab meeting as Football League players express interest in becoming officials

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[Tony Towner]

Webb said after the Newcastle one that in those scenarios the ref should be sent to the screen. Pratwells looked at the first one tonight for 3 minutes and decided to go against the very recent advice of Webb. He should be taken off duty full stop. On top of that the head butt decision is ludicrous as it goes against the rules. You can debate subjective ones but that one is just ridiculous.

What he says is just bluster in his cosy moment with Owen. The ref wasn't sent to look at the Sheff U pen, or the City one against Chelsea, both those were after the Newcastle pen. Then tonight he isn't for one that clearly isn't a penalty and is for one that's another dive and gives it because once that happens they are weak and feel they should give it