Coronavirus

[PuntsWolf]

For it to reduce the spread you’d have to trust it’s actually effective in detecting likely transmission. I have my doubts.

 

[BillyDee]

Some people are a lot less disadvantaged from following the advice from the app.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Precisely. Financial disaster for me to do so in my new circumstances so in the bin with it.

 

[WolfmanOz]

Pretty good summary/analysis of the insane zero COVID policy being pursed by some countries, including Australia.

'Zero COVID' catastrophe: participating nations see new records across the board

"Success stories" no more.

dossier.substack.com

 

[AndyWolves]

Precisely. Financial disaster for me to do so in my new circumstances so in the bin with it.

Only if you do what the app says?

Have you thought about leaving the app on so that if you do get pinged / infected / whatever people who come into contact with you can make the decision about whether they isolate or not?

 

[The Bear]

Only if you do what the app says?

Have you thought about leaving the app on so that if you do get pinged / infected / whatever people who come into contact with you can make the decision about whether they isolate or not?

Plausible deniability.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I binned it after one day in the early part of last year. I most certainly am not putting it back now, especially as it seems to work through walls which is ridiculous.

 

[AndyWolves]

You've already said you'd ignore it, what harm to you would it do to you to have it on?

Benefits would be if you did get infected, other people could make a decision

 

[Kenny]

I binned it after one day in the early part of last year. I most certainly am not putting it back now, especially as it seems to work through walls which is ridiculous.

but you sign into pubs and then if a person in said pub tests positive, the pub then has to tell Track & Trace and you get told to isolate if you were in the pub at the same time as them, even if you were nowhere near them.

I get why you don't want to get pinged but simply thinking not having the app means you will avoid getting told to isolate is wrong. The moment you visit a pub/restuarant and sign in manually you are at risk of getting told to isolate and more so than using the app.

Obviously in 3 days time you don't need to sign in anywhere and then in a months time even if you did and got pinged you won't need to isolate as you are fully jabbed

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I have been to the pub once since November and live on my own.

 

[Kenny]

Then having/not having the app makes little difference to you really as your chances of getting pinged are essentially zero (ignore the walls thing at your house as you are in a detached property and Bluetooth aint that strong)

Your biggest risk is work - and not getting pinged or contacted by T&T but just 1 person saying they have tested positive, the moment they say they are positive your boss has a legal obligation to tell you to bugger off and get tested/isolate because if that 1 positive turns into an outbreak at the factory he is fucked big time and could be shut down. From Monday that is your only fear for 1 more month. At least you know you can go the Western on 26th, not sign in and have a pint of Carling safe in the knowledge no one can tell you stay at home because some at the far end of the pub is Covid spreader.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Noticed recently the rate of vaccinations has reduced quite a lot, only 60,374 firsts today,..

Yeah i believe Germany has overtaken the UK on numbers fully vaccinated too.

 

[lemonjelly]

It isn't a supply issue. It's people not coming forward to be vaccinated.
Various areas are setting up pop up no appt needed vaccination facilities over this weekend.
Suggests we are close to the vaccination saturation. The 18-29 year olds did initially create a significant surge in demand, but this has slowed.
Personally feel that it seems to be 25-39 year olds in the main who seem to be the hesitant sector.

 

[BGreenWolf]

Given the slowdown in first doses, it's absolutely ludicrous that they aren't bringing second doses forwards.

 

[Kenny]

Given the slowdown in first doses, it's absolutely ludicrous that they aren't bringing second doses forwards.

Wales are changing 8 weeks to 6 weeks

 

[Dire Wolf]

Schools up here in the north east are a shit show. Some schools have 800 or more pupils off isolating, out of 1200 or so. May as well just close for the summer now really. Of the schools I work in, 5 classes out of 15 I teach have had cases and had those year groups stay off isolating. I have worked with 3 of the classes but because I am working outside I am not deemed at risk. Doesn’t really feel that way, especially as I know I have recently had a friend who is double vaccinated test positive and be pretty bloody unwell with it.

The effects of long COVID in young people also needs examining as some research is saying that although they may not get particularly seriously ill they can be quite badly affected long term. Not sure how true this is.

 

[James]

Schools up here in the north east are a shit show. Some schools have 800 or more pupils off isolating, out of 1200 or so. May as well just close for the summer now really. Of the schools I work in, 5 classes out of 15 I teach have had cases and had those year groups stay off isolating. I have worked with 3 of the classes but because I am working outside I am not deemed at risk. Doesn’t really feel that way, especially as I know I have recently had a friend who is double vaccinated test positive and be pretty bloody unwell with it.

A school in Chorley has shut 3 times due to outbreaks in bubbles & the staff. The school now does in house testing as there were a few wonderful children using the blackcurrant trick to bring up a positive test. Couldnt think of the pain in the arse it would be to be a working parent & your childs had to go off school 3 times at short notice due to it shutting.

 

[lemonjelly]

Isn't it the case that 9 of the 10 areas with highest number of cases are in the north east?

 

[Dire Wolf]

Isn't it the case that 9 of the 10 areas with highest number of cases are in the north east?

That sounds about right. South Tyneside worst in the country, Newcastle 2nd, Gateshead 5th (or is it 6th?). I’m sure North Tyneside and Sunderland are top 10 as well.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Just a thought, Grant Shapps. Just a thought. Imposing quarantine on returning Britons or people visiting when the cases per day outstrips those countries makes you look like a bit of a cunt. And a vindictive one at that.