Coronavirus

[AndyWolves]

10 days after the second dose though? So over 4 weeks after the first jab.

Nope, 10 days after the first jab. I'll dig out the Pfizer report...

Edit.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download&ved=2ahUKEwikw8b-itvtAhWxaRUIHZLDANgQFjAAegQIAxAC&usg=AOvVaw2R0YHnTpPmI-2rqIODPjOZ

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[Tredman]

We’re all fucked

https://twitter.com/x/status/1340383304143540227

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Nice to see everyone adhering to the new restrictions so well.

Regardless of what anyone thinks of the government what chance have they got with such widespread defiance of the rules?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

They had a considerably better chance if they had been upfront with bad news rather than populist saving Christmas before a backtrack

 

[lemonjelly]

This is the ZOE data for London, happily bumbling along until something happens mid DecemberView attachment 3212

What happened in mid december is the identification of positive cases from the immediate increased contacts that started when we came out of lockdown 2. The socialising and christmas shopping was effectively a super spreader event for adults.

Combined with the amount of cases in schools, that has resulted in a phenomenally higher proportion of people succumbing to the virus.

The whole idea of re-opening everything at the start of december was based on the economy. It was a decision taken regardless of the stress on the health services. Boris wanted to save the economy by getting everyone shopping, in time for his saving christmas. It is going to backfire spectacularly.

And lets not also forget that the NHS is under such strain because of the implementation of such significant cuts, especially to health and social care, that it had already been cut to the bone.

 

[Papper]

There has to be a new Influenza vaccine each season ( presume it mutates) so wouldn't it stand to reason that the same would happen with Covid. Are we essentially seeing Covid 20 ?

 

[AndyWolves]

There has to be a new Influenza vaccine each season ( presume it mutates) so wouldn't it stand to reason that the same would happen with Covid. Are we essentially seeing Covid 20 ?

From what I've read the Covid "spike' is thought to be stable so hopefully it won't mutate enough that a new vaccine is required

 

[AndyWolves]

What happened in mid december is the identification of positive cases from the immediate increased contacts that started when we came out of lockdown 2. The socialising and christmas shopping was effectively a super spreader event for adults.

Combined with the amount of cases in schools, that has resulted in a phenomenally higher proportion of people succumbing to the virus.

The whole idea of re-opening everything at the start of december was based on the economy. It was a decision taken regardless of the stress on the health services. Boris wanted to save the economy by getting everyone shopping, in time for his saving christmas. It is going to backfire spectacularly.

And lets not also forget that the NHS is under such strain because of the implementation of such significant cuts, especially to health and social care, that it had already been cut to the bone.

Why would that happen only in London? Surely the scenario you are describing would happen all across the country?

The regions that had the most occurences of the new strain also show the biggest increases in cases - coincidence?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1340453462635646976

 

[machin05]

If people were planning on staying over Xmas night they still will. Outside London i doubt this will change many plans

Have they not specifically said overnight stays are not allowed?

 

[Tony Towner]

Have they not specifically said overnight stays are not allowed?

Yes, that doesn't alter my view that people won't change plans though. They've taken their own views on safety and Johnson having yet another u turn won't change that

 

[Kenny]

From Hancocks comments this morning, the South need to get used to Tier 4 as its staying until the vaccine rollout begins to work. Rest of us get ready for Tier 4 as the new strain is everywhere (been doing the rounds since September apparently but clearly decided 2 weeks ago to step up its game)

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But it’s not a lockdown...

 

[Johnny75]

From Hancocks comments this morning, the South need to get used to Tier 4 as its staying until the vaccine rollout begins to work. Rest of us get ready for Tier 4 as the new strain is everywhere (been doing the rounds since September apparently but clearly decided 2 weeks ago to step up its game)

The virologist was much more informative than that wet fish. She gave us actual information on what to do to restrict the virus and where they’re at right now.

Hancock in contrast was a defensive shitgibbon who wouldn’t admit the government got anything wrong and defended his boss taking the piss out of SKS even though he’s now done what SKS has been asking for.

It’s a tough job but that interview was a new low for Woody from Toy Story.

 

[leedswolf]

 

[Kenny]

The virologist was much more informative than that wet fish. She gave us actual information on what to do to restrict the virus and where they’re at right now.

Hancock in contrast was a defensive shitgibbon who wouldn’t admit the government got anything wrong and defended his boss taking the piss out of SKS even though he’s now done what SKS has been asking for.

It’s a tough job but that interview was a new low for Woody from Toy Story.

Yep on all counts.

Some better info on the new strain as well. People who are either Covid is a hoax or mentally tired from the various different stories will be spending today asking how the new strain only went mental once the Government was made aware. Its been in the region for 2-3 months but exploded into action 2 weeks ago (already seen comments like this). Going to be a long stretch until the new Johnson promise of things will be ok by Easter (replacing 12 weeks, end of Summer, before Christmas and then in time for Christmas)

 

[Kenny]

View attachment 3218

As funny as the headline suggests that he is a surging mutant it does mean he has got his mates not to go with Boris cancels Christmas. The headlines he didn't want and the reason he mocked everyone this week for suggesting he does what was announced last night.
Win for Boris.

 

[PuntsWolf]

“Lockdown” is driving me nuts. Everything is open! My life is literally no different bar not being able to go for the occasional meal and go to football.

 

[darlowolf64]

 

[Tony Towner]

I'm not a body language expert, but have been on enough courses to know that Hancock didn't believe much of what he was saying on Marr today. Barely looked him in the eye and was coached to speak quietly with pauses and a furrowed brow to demonstrate sorrow. Played the victim a lot aswell. Not as bad as the fake tears to Piers Morgan, but getting there.

In a seperate note my old comp got a mention as the Head Teacher said his testing strategy wasn't achievable in the timeframe expected.

 

[AndyWolves]

When this is all over I can't wait to see a timeline of SKS recommendations and then the responses back from BoJo