Coronavirus

[machin05]

Just saw a headline on BBC saying numbers are 4 times worse than the Gov's predicted 'worse case scenario'. Fuck me, they're really ballsing this up, ay they.

 

[AndyWolves]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322209870251200518

The R is nowhere near where it was when they implemented this though

 

[Tredman]

The R is nowhere near where it was when they implemented this though

But we do have exponential growth.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I believe that R rate like i believe a Trump speech.

 

[AndyWolves]

ZOE reckons a doubling time of 28 days

COVID rates are not surging

According to the ZOE COVID Symptom Study UK Infection Survey figures, the number of daily new COVID-19 cases in the UK are continuing to steadily increase and not surging as other sources have suggested this week.

covid.joinzoe.com

Imperial College London are more pessimistic.

Depends on who you believe

 

[Tredman]

Too fucking late again

https://twitter.com/x/status/1322268151384576001

 

[Tony Towner]

National lockdown from Wednesday, to be announced on Monday, but leaked on Friday

 

[darlowolf64]

Quick, everyone is looking at the Labour Party, release that shit news...

 

[Tredman]

Until 1st December according to the Times. These bunch of fucking utterly shameless arsehats have fucked us again.

 

[Tredman]

R above 2 in the South.

Covid has hit 'critical' stage in England, research finds

Dramatic increase in recorded cases across country, with infection rate rising fastest in south

www.theguardian.com

I’m going to place a large bet that we have national lockdown as in France within 2 week.

Should have put that bet on..

 

[AndyWolves]

There's been some skepticism about ICLs numbers.

My guide through this, John Campbell, isn't convinced by ICL

 

[Aikiwolf]

The BBC are reporting a 4 week lock down to be announced next week.

 

[Tredman]

There's been some skepticism about ICLs numbers.

My guide through this, John Campbell, isn't convinced by ICL

Your guide seems to be a nurse, rather than a data scientist or an virologist? Assuming I found the correct person.

 

[AndyWolves]

Your guide seems to be a nurse, rather than a data scientist or an virologist? Assuming I found the correct person.

This guy. You should at least watch his videos before you condemn him to "being a nurse"

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-john-campbell-5256223b

 

[Tredman]

Yes then.

 

[AndyWolves]

It was meant as a friendly, "this is someone I've found who explains the facts in an impartial way that lay people can understand"

I'm not getting into a my dad is bigger than your dad discussion.

 

[Tredman]

Apologies then, it came across as a ‘brexit style’ ignore the experts.

I’m sure he is well meaning, as are others such as the cancer doctor and even Penk, but in much the same way as I’d rather not have an amateur surgeon take out my appendix I’d rather ‘Facebook’ and ‘twitter’ researchers were not given much credence.

 

[AndyWolves]

Apologies then, it came across as a ‘brexit style’ ignore the experts.

I’m sure he is well meaning, as are others such as the cancer doctor and even Penk, but in much the same way as I’d rather not have an amateur surgeon take out my appendix I’d rather ‘Facebook’ and ‘twitter’ researchers were not given much credence.

That's the point, he is what I would consider an expert.

He's got doctorates, masters degrees and doesn't present himself as someone with answers. He sees his role as someone who can present facts to lay people

He's impartial and lets you decide without being preachy. Even Tim Spector is aligned to ZOE and therefore can't be considered impartial

 

[Tredman]

I’m not entirely sure we get to decide who is an expert.

 

[AndyWolves]

Judge for yourself