Coronavirus

[Papper]

Thats it Kenny, just let him get a fine.

Who will fine him?

 

[Kenny]

Thats it Kenny, just let him get a fine.

:icon_biggrin: Seems fair to me.

 

[Kenny]

Who will fine him?

Maybe the Welsh Police as he takes a journey that isn't essential.

 

[Sniffer]

And a Tory MP that i didn't catch the name of....

Alexander Stafford

 

[Parkins left foot]

Apparantly 1 of my children can come into my garden (& that is easily possible without any interaction with me & can keep the recommended social distance away and a lot more as it's quite a big garden) & that is fine, but if his wife comes as well (and they live in the same house every day) that's against the rules

Little of this makes that much sense

(* they aren't coming as all live 100 miles away and we are not supposed to be driving that far)

 

[Kenny]

(* they aren't coming as all live 100 miles away and we are not supposed to be driving that far)

They can from Wednesday. No limits on distance if they are driving in England.

get the 1 chair sorted in our garden and a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps for his wife while she waits in the car

 

[Sniffer]

They can from Wednesday. No limits on distance if they are driving in England.

get the 1 chair sorted in our garden and a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps for his wife while she waits in the car

The bottle will come in handy.

 

[Papper]

Maybe the Welsh Police as he takes a journey that isn't essential.

But you are allowed to meet your family.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I read it as go out but be mindful of the virus and adapt. It seems so many people want Boris to hold their hands when much of it is common sense.

I'm sorry, they don't. They want clarity. Hardly a huge ask, but clearly impossible with the mixed messages flying about from within government.

Here's another question.

I can only work in the factory. I am furloughed by the MD because of an extremely vulnerable person in my house that the MD himself doesn't want to feel responsibility for spreading the infection to. However, the government advice today says I should be in work on Wednesday but the vulnerable person should be completely shielded. The decision about what to do in this case isn't coming from government as they haven't addressed it, so it leaves the decision entirely in the hands of my MD. That I don't approve of. That is an area where there should be absolute clarity so I know whether it is actually the right thing to do to go back. I will call the MD tomorrow and discuss it and we can make a decision between us, but really the document should be making it clear so such a decision isn't needed - it's just clear and obvious whether I go in or not.

(Hopefully I can go in - I miss it quite a lot and I dread the size of the testing backlog I already need to crunch through, even before it grows any more!)

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But you are allowed to meet your family.

According to Boris, but not according to Mark Drakeford.

Square that circle.

 

[Dublin Drummer Wolf]

It's amazing what a volcanic eruption the other side of Bali did to the UK population.

Starmer is very very good at killing by kindness. "The opposition is of course in support of the government in this, but could the prime minister please clear up this few tiny points", at which point he rips it to pieces clinically and points out all the inconsistencies of the last few days.

He's a former barrister isnt he? That type of clinical questioning and cross-examination has been his day to day for years. He will have Johnson on the backfoot constantly when debating. Should be fun to watch.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He's a Queer Customer as Rumpole used to put it

 

[Papper]

I'm sorry, they don't. They want clarity. Hardly a huge ask, but clearly impossible with the mixed messages flying about from within government.

Here's another question.

I can only work in the factory. I am furloughed by the MD because of an extremely vulnerable person in my house that the MD himself doesn't want to feel responsibility for spreading the infection to. However, the government advice today says I should be in work on Wednesday but the vulnerable person should be completely shielded. The decision about what to do in this case isn't coming from government as they haven't addressed it, so it leaves the decision entirely in the hands of my MD. That I don't approve of. That is an area where there should be absolute clarity so I know whether it is actually the right thing to do to go back. I will call the MD tomorrow and discuss it and we can make a decision between us, but really the document should be making it clear so such a decision isn't needed - it's just clear and obvious whether I go in or not.

(Hopefully I can go in - I miss it quite a lot and I dread the size of the testing backlog I already need to crunch through, even before it grows any more!)

There are many who continued to work in an ' essential capacity ' who have faced similar. If you have been out of the house what preventative steps have you taken? The supermarkets have adapted and so too the supply chain. I said right at the beginning that the vulnerable and their dependants isolate and furlough until the 80% build herd immunity and I was told I was talking bollocks then as well. Seriously though Paddy, the hundreds of thousands of jobs soon to be lost is a frightening prospect.

 

[Papper]

According to Boris, but not according to Mark Drakeford.

Square that circle.

My answer would be ' fuck Mark Drakeford ' sideways.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I agree with you about the job loss prospects. It is frightening.

IF I am expected to go in, I can tell you that my QA lab will have the door locked at all times and will be restricted to me and me alone. Mask. Gloves. Strict hand washing regime. Changed as soon as I get back in and clothes in the wash ready for the next shift. It'll cost a bomb in Daz but sod it. Beyond that, I am not sure what else in terms of precautions I can do, as I can hardly lock the vulnerable person in their bedroom 24 hours a day.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

My answer would be ' fuck Mark Drakeford ' sideways.

Hmmmm - the first minister of the principality where one family member works. Face it Papper. Wales and Scotland are off limits, and that is the end of it.

 

[Papper]

Apparantly 1 of my children can come into my garden (& that is easily possible without any interaction with me & can keep the recommended social distance away and a lot more as it's quite a big garden) & that is fine, but if his wife comes as well (and they live in the same house every day) that's against the rules

Little of this makes that much sense

(* they aren't coming as all live 100 miles away and we are not supposed to be driving that far)

Yes, be careful of circling drones, snooping neighbours and the dog robots (only in Singapore but aren't they fantastic)

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/technol...-enforces-social-distancing-in-singapore-park

 

[Parkins left foot]

They can from Wednesday. No limits on distance if they are driving in England.

get the 1 chair sorted in our garden and a bottle of pop and a bag of crisps for his wife while she waits in the car

The bottle will come in handy.

If distance isn't a problem then they could, but doubt they will as the elder one is still working long hours from home reconfiguring firms phone systems to allow them to work from home & the younger one is attempting to keep his business alive at the moment.

If driving is not an issue I should problably go up there (will need more petrol though as the last time I filled up was 6th April & still have half a tank)

 

[Papper]

Hmmmm - the first minister of the principality where one family member works. Face it Papper. Wales and Scotland are off limits, and that is the end of it.

It wouldn't stop me and they could shove their fine up their arse. Ignore the modern day Stasi.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

Inject Dettol, Drink Bleach, Let the fuckwits kill themselves