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Coronavirus

It'll spread quite quickly here. Irish spend a lot of time shaking hands, hugging, mingling with relatives (particularly older parents) going to mass.
Father in law (82) will continue to go to mass (even if he's advised not to) Last weekend, he went, was told not to do 'the sign of peace' (shake hands with all around you), asked him afterwards if he did it, he said "ah, we just tipped each others hands".
Blind faith.
Possibly helped it spread in Italy.
Let's be British, stand-offish and not be too touchy-feely!
 
Are we now basically the only country in the fucking world that hasn't closed schools and banned mass gatherings?

I'm due to be at an exhibition at ExCeL 23-25, I'm giving serious thought to telling work I'm not doing it. 5000 people through the doors last year, I'm not feeling that level of exposure to the unknown, particularly with my lad's health issues
 
So this is what happened at the ONS today, make of it what you will:

(One person tested positive in my son’s office)

Top dog comes and talks to staff. Says the ONS are keen not to act too early and explains why you can’t be “too drastic too early.” Staff with underlying health issues can work from home, for others, it’s business as usual.

Son (and colleagues generally) feel like sitting ducks and want to work from home and think this approach is irresponsible.

I’ll leave you to decide on that one.
 
Might want to show the top dog the graph on the last page. Direct him towards the lines for Singapore and Hong Kong, and the reasons therefore.
 
So this is what happened at the ONS today, make of it what you will:

(One person tested positive in my son’s office)

Top dog comes and talks to staff. Says the ONS are keen not to act too early and explains why you can’t be “too drastic too early.” Staff with underlying health issues can work from home, for others, it’s business as usual.

Son (and colleagues generally) feel like sitting ducks and want to work from home and think this approach is irresponsible.

I’ll leave you to decide on that one.

From a purely selfish perspective he's (or anyone) are probably better off getting the virus now before the numbers sky rocket just in case he needs treatment

Given the choice I'd get infect now if I could.

The only way this ends is by enough people having an immunity to it
 
Another cabinet minister in isolation. Raab?
 
Coronavirus: Juventus centre-back Daniele Rugani tests positive for virus
 
Third UK government minister in isolation
In addition to the unnamed cabinet minister, the junior health minister Ed Argar is also self-isolating after having dinner with Nadine Dorries on Thursday night, the Guardian understands.
 
Third UK government minister in isolation
In addition to the unnamed cabinet minister, the junior health minister Ed Argar is also self-isolating after having dinner with Nadine Dorries on Thursday night, the Guardian understands.
That's not the virus. It's the fucking shame
 
NBA to decide tomorrow on whether to continue the season behind closed doors or pause altogether.

I'd imagine that tomorrow's COBRA meeting is going to announce social distancing measures, if the expected peak here is within the next fortnight it'd be mental to push the decision back much more
 
must admit i’ve felt like shite since a meeting in London last week. hopefully just a cold caught from the lady coughing the whole journey down.

seems to me there’s been no strategy to either stop the spread or to cater for any large scale outbreak. either it’s lazy government or out of its depth or just a resignation that there’s fuck all they can do about it. hence the take it on the chin spiel, crisis PR, and an approach and advice changing day to day.
 
Times reporting that all football matches in the UK, at all levels, to take place behind closed doors for the rest of the season. Streams for ticket holders, though quite how many clubs will be able to offer that below the Championship... must be only a small number. Can see this being financially disastrous for League Two and below.
 
Times reporting that all football matches in the UK, at all levels, to take place behind closed doors for the rest of the season. Streams for ticket holders, though quite how many clubs will be able to offer that below the Championship... must be only a small number. Can see this being financially disastrous for League Two and below.
33% of revenue of Champ clubs and lower comes from ticket sales. This excludes Champ teams with parachute payments
 
Times reporting that all football matches in the UK, at all levels, to take place behind closed doors for the rest of the season. Streams for ticket holders, though quite how many clubs will be able to offer that below the Championship... must be only a small number. Can see this being financially disastrous for League Two and below.

But . . . but the science . . .
 
Times reporting that all football matches in the UK, at all levels, to take place behind closed doors for the rest of the season. Streams for ticket holders, though quite how many clubs will be able to offer that below the Championship... must be only a small number. Can see this being financially disastrous for League Two and below.

Its a nonsense, just end the season or delay it.
Pubs will want money back from the thousands they pay sky to show it,many season ticket holders won't or cant stream so will want some reimbursement.

Who's looking after these kids out of school for god knows how many weeks?, kids of parents that work for the nhs or carers.... Its all very ill thought out.
 
Not seen it posted yet
Trump bans all flights to Europe, but excludes the UK
 
If the evidence points overwhelmingly to certain groups being at risk of death then plan to isolate them or facilitate self isolation immediately and be open and honest that for anybody else you may be faced with feeling like shit for a few days but in the meantime take every precaution possible. Forget closing schools and mass gatherings just let the virus take it's course and fucking accept there may be shit times ahead which will be made far worse by closing the world down.
 
From the Times which is breaking the story
All football matches in England will be played behind closed doors under government plans to combat coronavirus that could be triggered as early as today.

A meeting of the government’s Cobra committee this morning is expected to move its response to the pandemic from the “contain” phase to the “delay” phase. That will result in a crisis plan being unveiled for football. The Times can reveal:

● The current season will not be postponed and instead matches in the Premier League and lower divisions will be moved behind closed doors;

● All Premier League season-ticket holders and ticket holders for individual games will be able to stream coverage of matches into their homes;

● No games will be shown in pubs so as to avoid congregation of people;

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● Premier League games will not be shown live in the 3pm slot on Saturday afternoons;

● Broadcasters will be permitted to screen more than one Premier League game during both the lunchtime and tea-time television slots on Saturday, and the scheduled slots on Sundays and Mondays; and

● Season-ticket holders and ticket holders for individual games at Football League clubs will be allowed to watch matches on iFollow streams.

The plan may be implemented once the number of UK coronavirus cases passes 500. Last night it stood at 460.

The dramatic moves are seen as the only potential way to end the present season in light of the growing coronavirus crisis in England and the growing possibility of the country being moved to the delay phase.

The government has been in discussion with the Premier League, the Football League and the Football Association about what can be done. The uncertainty over how the virus will develop and how long it will last are seen as reasons why English football will not be temporarily postponed. The forthcoming Euros also present a problem to the Premier League as to when this season would actually finish and how it could impact upon future campaigns.

Fans set off flares last night as PSG played Dortmund behind closed doors
Fans set off flares last night as PSG played Dortmund behind closed doors
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Sporting integrity has been cited as a major factor in moving against the possibility of cancelling the season outright, although smaller clubs who are more reliant on gate receipts are worried about the financial implications of matches without ticket sales.

However, there are huge penalty clauses in the Premier League broadcasting contracts if the season was terminated rather than played to a conclusion. These would run into hundreds of millions of pounds for the Premier League and would most likely have to be passed onto the clubs, or alternatively would be clawed back by removing things such as parachute payments.

That is what has led to the solution of moving games behind closed doors.

The Premier League has been the last major organisation in Europe to move towards ending spectator attendance at their games.

So far the government has followed medical advice that has insisted the congregation of large crowds at outdoor events is not dangerous. However, it is the close proximity of supporters travelling, especially on trains, that is now seen as the biggest threat.

Under the plans, pubs will be ordered not to show live coverage of matches and will be threatened with the loss of their licence if they fail to comply. It is thought this will be policed strongly because of the risk to health.

The present proposals are to broadcast every single Premier League game. Every season-ticket holder, or anyone who has a bought a ticket for a game would get a free stream. Clubs would then be able to sell streams for their games to fans as well. Even given the extraordinary nature of the times, there is still a desire not to set a precedent by showing games live at 3pm on a Saturday, traditionally a protected slot to incentivise fans going to watch their local teams in person.

The Premier League has been in negotiations with the Football League to assure them that none of their games would be shown live at 3pm on a Saturday. Broadcasters would face less pressure in the unique environment to put matches directly up against other games. The solution would involve existing slots with potentially three games shown at the same time.

The decision by the Premier League to move all of their games away from the 3pm Saturday slot would allow the Football League to stream all of their matches at that time using the iFollow technology.

Most Football League clubs already have that technology installed to allow them to stream their games. Some clubs have their own streams but the technology is in place for every club to stream their games live.

Ticket-holders will have to settle for watching their teams on free TV streams
Ticket-holders will have to settle for watching their teams on free TV streams
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There is still concern, however, at Football League level, about the loss of matchday income which in some cases at that level constitutes two thirds of their annual income. Talks have taken place at government level about whether there is compensation available. The chancellor Rishi Sunak unveiled a £30 billion package to help the country get through the coronavirus in his budget yesterday but it is unknown if any of that will be put aside for struggling football clubs fearful of going bust.

Playing games behind closed doors is now seen as the least bad option. It means that existing fixture schedules can be completed across all of the four main leagues in England. Most English clubs have at least nine league matches to play, plus the remaining rounds of the FA Cup and Champions League.

As it stands only players, team officials, broadcasters and journalists would be allowed to attend games in England. A further complication however would be if infection was to spread between players. At that point it is thought that the Professional Footballers’ Association would say that the danger to their members would be too great and games would be cancelled.

At present the Bundesliga in Germany and Ligue One in France have already gone behind closed doors, and one Division Two footballer in Germany has tested positive for the virus.

The Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola has voiced his concern about playing games without supporters in attendance. “Does football work without spectators?” he said. “If the people can’t come, there is no sense. We will follow what we have to do, but I wouldn’t like to do it without the people.

“The other issue you have to ask is: is it worse to play football without the spectators? We do our job for the people and if the people cannot come to watch us, there is no sense.

“I would not love to play matches in the Premier League or Champions League or the cups without the people, but we will follow the instructions of the government.”

Discussions have shown that all eventualities are fraught with difficulties, but it is seen as the only way ahead.
 
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