Coronavirus

[Paddingtonwolf]

That could be because people are getting better at recognizing when their symptoms warrant testing, or because there are fewer people returning from affected areas, or anything. I wouldn't read too much into it.

I think when you consider that if you call 111 they will only send for a test if you have had direct contact with a confirmed carrier or have returned from designated countries and have clear symptoms, it is actually tip of the iceberg. Community spread is not being caught in these figures.

 

[EpsomWolf]

My son is in a placement year at the Office for National Statistics in Cardiff.

Just confirmed a positive case in his office.

That personal connection makes it feel much more real.

 

[Tom Hark]

Cheers, where are the "how many were tested" figures?

The Worldometers site stopped giving that info a week or so ago for some reason.

I just took the previous day's figure that hadn't been updated from one site away from yestarday's figure on another site.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1237731864233807872?s=19

 

[Premier Quality]

Incubation time is 14 days or so
They're aren't testing any 'community' caught infections
The number of infected people is increasing in line with what we've seen in other countries, we need to increase at a slower rate.
In about 2 weeks time was when Italy began to get overwhelmed
My thinking is we really need to keep a lid on how many people get infected in the next two weeks.

We’re not trying to stop it - we’re trying to smooth the curve of when people have it.

 

[arklowolf]

According to one of the delivery drivers who comes here, they will be closing all schools here next week. How true that is, I don't know.
He also said a certain large meat factory won't let them come anywhere inside their outer gates. Makes sense I suppose.

 

[AndyWolves]

We’re not trying to stop it - we’re trying to smooth the curve of when people have it.

Yep, I know

I want us to avoid the problems Italy are facing now

If we leave it 10-14 days it may be too late

That said, we could end up just delaying the peak

 

[AndyWolves]

https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1237760976482598913

Are we reassured now?

At least he's listening to the scientists, statistics and models.

I think one message which would be good would be for govt to advise vulnerable people to isolate themselves as much as they can.

If I had any elderly relatives I'd avoid seeing them as much as possible, it's not always possible but could save their life

 

[AndyWolves]

I think when you consider that if you call 111 they will only send for a test if you have had direct contact with a confirmed carrier or have returned from designated countries and have clear symptoms, it is actually tip of the iceberg. Community spread is not being caught in these figures.

There is an upside to this though.

There's got to loads of people who don't realise they have had coronavirus and have put it down to a normal cold / flu and are now getting over it. Provided these people are sensible and don't go out they won't spread it and at the same time will become immune to it so we're already building herd immunity.

 

[Tredman]

$10k to not get tested in the US. Fuck that.

http://thecity.nyc/2020/03/the-cost-of-not-getting-tested-for-coronavirus-a-10k-bill.html

 

[Del Woppio]

There is an upside to this though.

There's got to loads of people who don't realise they have had coronavirus and have put it down to a normal cold / flu and are now getting over it. Provided these people are sensible and don't go out they won't spread it and at the same time will become immune to it so we're already building herd immunity.

But the overwhelming majority of people who just think they have a cold go about their lives as normal, increasing risk of community spread which isn't tested. How's that an upside?

 

[lemonjelly]

I was until I read this thread...

https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1237731864233807872

https://twitter.com/Yascha_Mounk/status/1237731864233807872?s=19

tl;dr the weak can go to the walls

 

[slink]

This is such a weird and strange situation because naturally you just think shut everything down and stop doing everything but that just isn't possible and it does seem like we are following the science over here rather than just doing whatever we like.

It makes decisions like whether to go to Cheltenham on Friday or to our game on Sunday very difficult, at the moment we're still going because we've been told to just carry on so i'll do that but part of me really doesn't know if it's the right thing to do. I suffer from chronic sinusitis and a minor lung condition so i imagine i'll get it at some point anyway and will self isolate as soon as i feel anything but i'm more worried about my parents, Dad has got skin cancer and Mom has quite serious breathing problems and i don't really want them to get it as it seems it really does attack people with illnesses already.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

tl;dr the weak can go to the walls

That's what triage in very serious circumstances is LJ. Pick the best chances of survival cases and concentrate on them. You have to concentrate the resources where they will make the most difference.

 

[UKYankieWWFC]

So an engineer who I work with went on a cruise last week to Mexico
Flew out of Atlanta to San Francisco and came baxk Sunday.
Company policy due to the virus was for anyone leaving the country fo fill in a form stating the following.
1 have you been out of the country in the last 14 days?
2 have you come in contact with any other nationality in the last 14 days?
He came to work yesterday, mulled around the office and went to several departmental meetings.
The bastard took today off sick saying he got a 'head cold and temperature'

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

We have a second bloke off. He threw a sickie two weeks ago. Turns out that there is strong suspicion that he went to Italy with the first bloke but did the sickie as he was denied the holiday time. And now this is all kicking off and he can't admit he was in Italy without getting in the shit. So he appears to have gone into hiding with a second sickie to cover his lies.

His back to work interview is going to be entertaining.

 

[AndyWolves]

But the overwhelming majority of people who just think they have a cold go about their lives as normal, increasing risk of community spread which isn't tested. How's that an upside?

You have to believe that most people would think about it first

That said, the government need to get people to stay at home if they have even the sniffles now

People really need to consider vulnerable people they interact act with and also what we can do to prevent vulnerable people having to go out. Any neighbours that could have their shopping done for them, picking up prescriptions for them etc

 

[AndyWolves]

This is such a weird and strange situation because naturally you just think shut everything down and stop doing everything but that just isn't possible and it does seem like we are following the science over here rather than just doing whatever we like.

It makes decisions like whether to go to Cheltenham on Friday or to our game on Sunday very difficult, at the moment we're still going because we've been told to just carry on so i'll do that but part of me really doesn't know if it's the right thing to do. I suffer from chronic sinusitis and a minor lung condition so i imagine i'll get it at some point anyway and will self isolate as soon as i feel anything but i'm more worried about my parents, Dad has got skin cancer and Mom has quite serious breathing problems and i don't really want them to get it as it seems it really does attack people with illnesses already.

From what I've read so far big outdoor gatherings don't seem to be that much of a risk - which I find counter intuitive. I guess it's the indoor things that are much riskier.

My thoughts would be to sack everything off that's not essential, there'll be a Cheltenham next year and other wolves games. I think you'll be infections before you show symptoms so be Uber careful around your parents - keep distance, wash hands loads and cough / sneeze into your armpit seems to be the advice. That said, if you even get a sniffle I'd steer clear of them for 2-3 weeks

 

[Tredman]

Not good

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Not liking the sudden spike in the US line at all.