Coronavirus

[Rui_CostCo]

Kate McCann has very kindly reminded the public of the need for us all to stay at home to 'protect weaker ones'. :hmmm:

This has been likened to Rolf Harris telling people not to park outside schools

 

[arklowolf]

Kate McCann has very kindly reminded the public of the need for us all to stay at home to 'protect weaker ones'. :hmmm:

This has been likened to Rolf Harris telling people not to park outside schools

Ignore me. I was thinking of the sky news presenter, can't think of her name now.

 

[arklowolf]

Yeah, just googled, she's Kate McCann as well.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

If you've not already,google image bat soup,at what point would you think,yea you know what I could just go for some of that about now

They eat some pretty messed up stuff, I dont really care so much about them eating bats (as disgusting as it is) but bats are carriers of many transmissable diseases including some of the most deadly to humans.

The trade in pangolins has brought them to the edge of extinction, that along with the rhino horn and ivory trade has just been ignored as a whole with just a bit of weak rhetoric.

 

[Tredman]

And we don’t eat what others would consider weird things? And we have had anything to do animal extinction? Excuse me while I just go and shoe all these wolves and boar off my front garden [emoji849]

 

[Rui_CostCo]

Hi Tredman, thanks for the graphic, it looks a little misleading. We've got a lovely slow decline, whereas the number of cases is still actually rising steadily (see below), have you got a link to where it came from?

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[Tredman]

Hi Tredman, thanks for the graphic, it looks a little misleading. We've got a lovely slow decline, whereas the number of cases is still actually rising steadily (see below), have you got a link to where it came from?

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It’s from the FT. Number of cases isn’t that relevant with an infectious disease, what’s important is getting the growth down and getting off the exponential rise.

 

[Papper]

What else do we do though? Ignore scientific advice, flick it off and say Boris and Donald know best?

I struggle to get my head round the argument that a few 10s of thousand/Hundreds of Thousand/Million lives are worth sacrificing to ensure what? The current financial systems remain in tact? Politicians retain their meal ticket? What is it we would be getting that is so worth these people dying? Not unbalacing a very unbalanced apple cart? If we have any chance at all of saving these lives, surely we should try?

Questions bounced around earlier like ' so would you be happy to pay more tax then, and everyone wants it, till its them that has to pay for it, so answer me this.

Say 31,700 people , the capacity of Molineux needs to die to save the world's financial systems. Would you volunteer? Would you offer your wife up? Your girlfriend, your boyfriend? Would you kiss goodbye to your children, parents or Grandparents? Would you be happy to see them sacrificed?

If not, why should you expect, or condemn others to do so?

I don't have all the answers, no one does, but some people get paid a lot of money to come up with the best options, and it's their advice that we take the steps we are doing.

I don't envy them, and even less the people that are having to impliment this and I certainly wouldn't want to be them. I really, really don't

Agreed.

The global economy is encapsulated by toxic debt and is fuelled by consumerism - it has been for a while but lets face it all nations appear to be in perpetual debt so situations like this or war will always need increased borrowing or printing more money. Wouldn't it be nice if the personal wealth of the 1% of the 1% was redistributed instead of the average Joe picking up the tab.

 

[Paul]

How would you feel if someone 'redistributed ' your wealth ????

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

And we don’t eat what others would consider weird things? And we have had anything to do animal extinction? Excuse me while I just go and shoe all these wolves and boar off my front garden [emoji849]

Not sure what your point is, of course we have played a role in extinctions, mainly from before we properly understood or from an age that it was much more us or them. Humans as a species have been responsible for the extinction of pretty much all large mammals/flightless birds from prehistory to now

My point is that this should highlight the fact that illegal trade in endangered animals is being driven by demand from china and it's about time that the international community spoke up about it. Besides the health risk of having wet markets when dealing in Bush meat, the pangolin has not got much hope left because of some pathetic demand for its use in, excuse the pun batshit mental medicine

 

[Tredman]

Not sure what your point is, of course we have played a role in extinctions, mainly from before we properly understood or from an age that it was much more us or them. Humans as a species have been responsible for the extinction of pretty much all large mammals/flightless birds from prehistory to now

My point is that this should highlight the fact that illegal trade in endangered animals is being driven by demand from china and it's about time that the international community spoke up about it. Besides the health risk of having wet markets when dealing in Bush meat, the pangolin has not got much hope left because of some pathetic demand for its use in, excuse the pun batshit mental medicine

My point is that a massive amount of problems in the world can be traced directly back to the western world (and us in particular) imposing our particular moral view on the world. Now is not the time for blame or opportunism.

 

[Papper]

WTF is that, it's trotting along then all of a sudden

"Old resentments and falling-outs will seem irrelevant. You will call people you had sworn never to talk to ever again, so as to ask them: “How are you doing?” Many women will be beaten in their homes."

The consumption of alcohol will increase and in close proximity that will always be a powder-keg (for some). People worried about jobs, their retirement funds and the psychological impact of de-socialising. I think making friends with former enemies will be way off the list for some. We will see people literally going mad within the next few week - who knows what the long term effects of this will be.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

Agreed.

The global economy is encapsulated by toxic debt and is fuelled by consumerism - it has been for a while but lets face it all nations appear to be in perpetual debt so situations like this or war will always need increased borrowing or printing more money. Wouldn't it be nice if the personal wealth of the 1% of the 1% was redistributed instead of the average Joe picking up the tab.

Some are doing their bit. My Mrs has just told me Rihanna has basically covered Barbados and donated personal protective equipment (PPE) to New York, , James McAvoy donated 275,000 into the crowdfund for PPE, Bernie Sanders has diverted all of his donations to the coronavirus fight, Fosun Foundation has donated 18,000 N95 masks to NYU Langone Health and Mount Sinai hospital on top of those donated to New Cross and Italy.

Richard Branson wants the country to Bail out Virgin.

Theres a saying that Domic Cummings is fond of using, Once a gentleman, always a gentleman and a half. Once a pirate, always a pirate and a half.

People will remember their actions.

I think the 1% would have to be forced to correct the books otherwise it will be the average joe that picks up the tab

When people show you their true self, believe them.

 

[Papper]

How would you feel if someone 'redistributed ' your wealth ????

My wealth always has been redistributed but I am specifically talking about the Billionaire club.

 

[Papper]

Some are doing their bit. My Mrs has just told me Rihanna has basically covered Barbados and donated personal protective equipment (PPE) to New York, , James McAvoy donated 275,000 into the crowdfund for PPE, Bernie Sanders has diverted all of his donations to the coronavirus fight, Fosun Foundation has donated 18,000 N95 masks to NYU Langone Health and Mount Sinai hospital on top of those donated to New Cross and Italy.

Richard Branson wants the country to Bail out Virgin.

Theres a saying that Domic Cummings is fond of using, Once a gentleman, always a gentleman and a half. Once a pirate, always a pirate and a half.

People will remember their actions.

I think the 1% would have to be forced to correct the books otherwise it will be the average joe that picks up the tab

When people show you their true self, believe them.

There is no need in this day and age for so many to be so wealthy. Close on 2500 Billionaires in this world. I would tend to differentiate between Branson's personal wealth and Virgin in itself.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

How would you feel if someone 'redistributed ' your wealth ????

I would tend to differentiate between Branson's personal wealth and Virgin in itself.

Around the middle of last week, self styled tax exile Richard Bransons Live personal wealth according to Forbes was $3,500,000,000. At the end of the week it had risen to 4,000,000,000, an increase of a paltry 500 Million dollars. His net cash worth is over 600 million dollars.

How many hundred million dollars does one man need?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The alcohol point is a valid one indeed.

If you have people completely furloughed then every day is going to be like a Saturday or Sunday. I certainly don't normally drink as much during the week in normal times because there is work taking up so much of the day. I am going to have to be really disciplined doing jobs round the house and garden and I need to strictly rule that the yard arm is 6pm in the week and not midday like I have enjoyed it being at weekends. Otherwise I am going to be demolishing beer, my bank balance, and not to mention my bloody liver.

There are so many jobs round the house that will need doing. So I am sure the days will get filled.

I'm going to have a bloody lovely garden by the time this is over, I reckon.

We also need to really think about mental health. I have been absolutely fine so far until this morning, when the most hideous panic attack going. Dreadful. Much better now after having a lie down and practising some breathing exercises to hold off the hyperventilation.

We have a great book called The Idiot Brain by Dean Burnett. Really excellent advice from a neuroscientist. I delved into it, thought about what he was saying, and it was a lot easier to calm my troubled mind.

I recommend anybody having difficulties while cooped up try and get hold of a copy.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Around the middle of last week, self styled tax exile Richard Bransons Live personal wealth according to Forbes was $3,500,000,000. At the end of the week it had risen to 4,000,000,000, an increase of a paltry 500 Million dollars. His net cash worth is over 600 million dollars.

How many hundred million dollars does one man need?

Those mega yachts and rebuilding Necker Island don't come cheap, you know...

 

[Papper]

My point is that a massive amount of problems in the world can be traced directly back to the western world (and us in particular) imposing our particular moral view on the world. Now is not the time for blame or opportunism.

They'll continue to bomb them. As Mr Weller sang about Kidney machines, rockets and guns.

 

[Rui_CostCo]

The consumption of alcohol will increase and in close proximity that will always be a powder-keg (for some). People worried about jobs, their retirement funds and the psychological impact of de-socialising. I think making friends with former enemies will be way off the list for some. We will see people literally going mad within the next few week - who knows what the long term effects of this will be.

Every morning, from 7am onwards, I can see people walking out of our local store with cases and cases and bottles and bottles of alcohol each