Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Wilf Wolf]

Absolutely, I was a staunch unionist in the 70/80s but was appalled at the misuse of Union members by wannabe left wing politicians masquerading as Union leaders, treated them like their personal army. As always while the unions needed some form control, it swung too far the other way and now union's are dead in the water.

Sadly you are correct. I was a workplace representative for over 20 years and the level of apathy from many people was depressing. Once they encountered a manager who was a twat their attitude soon changed.

Thatcher’s legacy of everyone for themselves is still alive and society, which she said didn’t exist, is a lot worse for it. She was a woman who knew the price of everything but the value of very little.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

More problems for our reluctant hero. This morning he got his Downing Street press officer to threaten the New European.

Seems that when Fat Alex flew back from COP26 for his posh dinner with the climate denying Conservative donor tycoon he may have got a little pissed and shot his mouth in the middle of the Garrick, and what he has said got back to the New European who then reported his words that he has “buyers remorse” about his marriage to Carrie Antoinette.

So the press officer phoned threatening legal fire and brimstone and claiming this was totally untrue and defamatory. The New European response was “sue away - we have all the evidence” and so Fat Alex has to his afternoon withdrawn all his legal threats. Bet Carrie Antoinette is giving him shitloads of trouble. Couldn’t happen to a nicer couple.

 

[Sniffer]

Links?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I typed new European into google and it’s their front piece. Think they have a paywall but you can read the story.

 

[Tony Towner]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1461686492754067456

 

[Tony Towner]

Dacre has pulled out of the Ofcom job. The net is closing, I'm still not convinced it'll catch them, but they are definitely wriggling

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That’s big news about Dacre. It’s all beginning to fall apart.

 

[leedswolf]

It will be blag followed by more blag.

 

[leedswolf]

In many peopje’s vie they were going well beyond the scope of what the role of a TU was. You might disagree but Thatcher was elected on that mandate. Scargill turned the miner’s strike into something much bigger and tried to bring the government down yet never had a democratic mandate from the members which typified how many Union leaders operated.

So the trade unions were deserverdly punished because of their leadership? I can discuss the semantics of the 84 strike if you like, but the blame isn't at the NUM's door.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

And hopefully we see an increase in the Labour lead in the polls.

Raab saying the voters don’t care about sleaze, they care about quality of life was a nadir. At least it would be if his boss hadn’t said don’t look at cancer outcomes, look at wage growth

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

So the trade unions were deserverdly punished because of their leadership? I can discuss the semantics of the 84 strike if you like, but the blame isn't at the NUM's door.

I was young obviously, but I seem to have recollections of lots of talk of the unions having tea at number ten under Callaghan and Thatcher pushed a denuding of union power in the 1979 election campaign.

Its not that the leadership deserved it necessarily. It’s that it gave a target to Thatcher maybe? I was only seven so I can’t claim great knowledge of the 1979 election so I will happily bow to your greater knowledge.

 

[Tredman]

I think there were sandwiches involved too.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Ooh. Any idea on fillings? Did they take the crusts off? My point is it was clearly a soundbite that became a slogan to attack. An MO still used now by the Conservatives although Thatcher actually followed through on the threat which the current blithering imbecile never seems to.

 

[Sniffer]

I was under the impression that it was all done in smoke filled rooms?

 

[Sniffer]

Ooh. Any idea on fillings? Did they take the crusts off? My point is it was clearly a soundbite that became a slogan to attack. An MO still used now by the Conservatives although Thatcher actually followed through on the threat which the current blithering imbecile never seems to.

I think that the honourable member from Stafford was referring to a former honourable member from Hinckley.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That is glorious stuff sniffer.

 

[leedswolf]

I was young obviously, but I seem to have recollections of lots of talk of the unions having tea at number ten under Callaghan and Thatcher pushed a denuding of union power in the 1979 election campaign.

Its not that the leadership deserved it necessarily. It’s that it gave a target to Thatcher maybe? I was only seven so I can’t claim great knowledge of the 1979 election so I will happily bow to your greater knowledge.

Tea at No 10, that's Frank stuff. The tragedy was that if Callaghan had called an election in the Autumn of 78, the polls suggested he would win.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Winter of discontent? Was that the killer?

 

[leedswolf]

Winter of discontent? Was that the killer?

Basically the private industry (Ford) reneged on a Govt/TU deal on controlling wages and inflation.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

So the trade unions were deserverdly punished because of their leadership? I can discuss the semantics of the 84 strike if you like, but the blame isn't at the NUM's door.

One man’s punishment is another man’s restraint. I’m sure we both have views on the 1984 strike and they probably differ depending where you were standing. All I’ll say it isn’t very often that a new TU is formed because a lot of members considered the NUM to be undemocratic. Stupid thing is if Scargill had gone to the members he’d probably have won and the wider TU movement would have offered more support.