Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

[Elephant Pyjamas]

The Northern Tories in marginal seats are getting twitchy. I’d like to think it was because they have a conscience but I’m sure for the majority it’s just a case of self-preservation.

Will those in the North realise that this is what is happening though? I doubt it.

Once shiny and new Rishi rides out of the smoke they'll support the Tories ever more. Not as if Starmer and Labour will be offering anything particularly different.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

So the tossers who voted not to feed hungry kids, to protect their mate from punishment for corruption and to take £20 a week from the nations neediest people have now voted for the working population and pensioners in the north to protect the assets of those who are property rich in the south.
Wankers.

Yet those that are getting screwed over will probably still vote for them.

 

[The Saturday Boy]

It's quite clever by the Tories - people are less concerned about things that are that far in the future and by the time they realise they have been shafted Boris will be long gone. It's like Brexit which was won making arguments about the immediate future - take control of our borders, sovereignty and spend on the NHS. People tend not to vote on stuff that doesn't impact on them immediately.

I am thinking that as soon as the Tories ditch Johnson they will call an election pretty quickly to try and divorce themselves from the shit show. With a healthy commons majority and a shiny new leader they would be confident that they would remain in power. The longer they go on the more the consequences will start to play out.

 

[SSB]

Just watched a speech which our Prime Minister based around Peppa Pig World. Quite bizarre times we live in.

Edit. Apologies. Seems I’m a day late.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He sounded and behaved as pissed as fuck, which isn't a rarity these days from him.

He's more Yeltsin than Churchill.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

He sounded and behaved as pissed as fuck, which isn't a rarity these days from him.

He's more Yeltsin than Churchill.

I hadn't seen all of it until just now, but so many issues, he imitates the noise a car makes, rambles about Peppa Pig, and of course loses his place in his script.

Beyond comprehension.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Apparently he gave more or less the same speech at some Tory dinner in the evening and it was "much better, he had practiced it".

1) The CBI one is more important, obviously. Practice for that one, chunky
2) These aren't meant to be stand up routines, and you aren't funny anyway
3) Pretty sure awful jokes to a captive audience who are all leathered and have paid to be there will go down well. Like Cliff Richard's fans love his music and no-one else can abide it

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He's genuinely not far off these levels at the moment.

Downing Street have had to comment that he's "physically well" FFS, like something you'd hear out of 80s USSR.

In other news, Nadine Dorries is still as thick as mince and entirely unfit for purpose. Could actually be the worst Minister we've ever had, relative to ability.

Q: You said you did not know if the BBC will be going in 10 years’ time? That’s extraordinary.
Dorries says she was asked about the licence fee.
Nicolson reads back the quote to her. She said she did not know if the BBC would still be there in 10 years time.
Well, I don’t, says Dorries. And neither do you.
Q: The Times reported that you said the Nick Robinson interview with the PM would cost the BBC a lot of money.
Dorries says she did not hear the interview, and she did not says that.
She says she is “very sure the BBC will be here in 10 years’ time”. The point she was making was that you cannot predict the future, she says.
Q: You said BBC broadcasting was like what you would see in a Soviet country. Have you ever visited a Soviet country?
Dorries says she will not comment on tweets she posted 12 years ago.
Nicolson says it was not 12 years ago. It was in the Daily Mail last month.

 

[pr0sl0]

The Northern Tories in marginal seats are getting twitchy. I’d like to think it was because they have a conscience but I’m sure for the majority it’s just a case of self-preservation.

They're not "normal" Tories. A lot of them were the kinds of candidates that the big parties only allow because they're running in seats that wouldn't normally be competitive, and so there wasn't much vetting or filtering out of people who might cause issues, internal to the party or external to the country. Really diverse and odd group overall, but they do have some broad similarities, especially when it comes to being quite fond of kicking off about broken manifesto promises.

Johnson talks a big game about increasing government spending on services and infrastructure, but he - and the rest of the pre-2019 party, for the most part - understood it as election triangulation rather than an actual shift away from keeping taxes low on investment portfolios and bankers' bonuses. But the 2019 intake... A lot of them seem to be genuinely aghast that they've been elected to do stuff like "rebalance the economy away from London" and then keep being asked to vote against that happening. They don't have enough numbers to push Johnson out alone, but if/when a leadership challenge does rear its head then having a bloc like that which is both frustrated with the leadership and has no real loyalty or investment in "how things are usually done in the Conservative Party" is going to be a headache.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I don't know, I can only go off what I see locally, but Mrs DW's MP is Stuart Anderson and my Da's MP is Jane Stevenson.

They have not even remotely kicked up a fuss about anything. They were put in place because they believe in Brexit (although neither properly understand what it is, or the connotations) and they will vote 100% of the time with the Government (I believe they both have).

Both publicly defended the school meals stance for instance, even after the U-turn.

Anderson is just thick, Stevenson is actively horrible.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Is Stevenson my drone as well?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yep. Anderson is Chapel Ash/Bradmore and that way.

Stevenson is Pendeford/Fordhouses etc.

First Tory to get in there since 1987. Will probably be the last one for a while too as she is dreadful. Refuses to deal with any casework unless you send her a formal letter FFS.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I hope Emma Reynolds stands against her in the next election. They would weigh the Labour vote to save time as the contrast between the two is profound and obvious.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Was a 12% swing in 2019, purely a single issue Brexit matter.

The Tories got within 7% in 2010 (when Brown was incredibly unpopular, and Dishface STILL couldn't win a meaningful majority, the useless tosser) but otherwise post-Thatcher it's been fairly safe for Labour. I imagine Wolves NE will revert to type whenever we next get a GE and there'll be plenty of other similar seats.

They can't ride Brexit forever when it's obviously shit. They can't really ride "vaccines" (not that they had much to do with it) any more either because people forget easily. Life is broadly normal now, we all go to work, the football, the pub, it's not very different to where we were in 2019 for most people. So they've forgotten how badly we fucked it in 2020 (and we did), and recovering quicker than mainland Europe - from a worse position, which was our own fault - is also rapidly being forgotten. It's back to jobs, pay, social care, cost of living, all normal politics stuff. And this lot haven't got a prayer because they're all incompetent.

Their only hope is ditching Fat Al and playing the same hand they've already played twice now with May and Johnson. What, those Tories? No, that wasn't us, we're a new Government, see...

But that'll wear pretty thin. Also if the economy is fucked then Rishi isn't getting the leadership, you can't preside over that as Chancellor and then become PM straight after. He's their best chance of winning as people quite like him (I do not).

 

[Keef]

I cycle past stevensons office in fallings park most days at various times going to and from work, always seems to be shut with no visible signs of life, whether parliaments in session or not

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I've lived here for 10 years.

Not once have I seen Gav anywhere near his office. It's just over a mile from my house.

This is the last "previous event" he has on his shit website:

https://www.gavinwilliamson.org/events/previous

Fucking October 2017!

He has nothing under "future events", the joker.

From the homepage, it appears he did exactly nothing for nearly two months (after a hectic visit to a Rotary Club) lately, then "welcomed a survey". Well in Gav.

https://www.gavinwilliamson.org

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

He pulled a couple of pints at the Bull in Codsall I think for a photo shot. God knows when that was though. Definitely a good while back.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He doesn't have to try round here. 65%+ of the vote, always. So why bother working is his attitude, I suppose. He isn't even from round here, so why would he care. Never going to get a Cabinet job again. Could spend 20+ years just doing this, £82k a year plus pension. Sounds good to me.

Our system is shit. I mean on that page - he visited Kinver Rotary Club. I don't live anywhere near there! Why does my constituency cover such a ridiculous area?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Your constituency is geographically huge compared to me as your “neighbour” but I think their are more voters in mine by quite a long way. I think some form of boundary change dropping a chunk of Pendeford into Gavs seat would potentially fuck him up nicely but will never happen!

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I reckon the Dovecotes estate would probably suffice. It’s big in terms of population and pretty deprived. Should be a weigh the Labour vote area.