Aston Villa

[Penk Wolf]

That's definitely what I've read, what the compromise is though who knows?

If I were the EFL I think I’d agree to it and say, “you can lose £13m this year, £26m over the two seasons and then full rules apply in year 3.”

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Sorry, but that isn't good enough. The EFL need to think about getting sued by all the other teams under sanction. Fuck Villa. It's their fucking mess.

 

[James]

Sorry, but that isn't good enough. The EFL need to think about getting sued by all the other teams under sanction. Fuck Villa. It's their fucking mess.

Didn’t QPR get a £45m fine as well?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Sort of...

What if a team that is under sanction refuses to play Villa as they are not being treated equally? One on their own would possibly get sanction but if every champ team that has been under sanction banded together then Villa have hardly anyone to play.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I think the ramifications of a team going into administration owing the money Villa do would probably be worth. Like I say, it would be a big dilemma for the EFL.

 

[Tony Towner]

Sort of...

What if a team that is under sanction refuses to play Villa as they are not being treated equally? One on their own would possibly get sanction but if every champ team that has been under sanction banded together then Villa have hardly anyone to play.

You are still playing the Batman role Paddy. Fairness and justice unfortunately doesn't come into it and predictably was never going to.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

But if LEEDS do it, or FOREST do it... Those clubs are just as big as Aston fucking Villa.

 

[Penk Wolf]

But if LEEDS do it, or FOREST do it... Those clubs are just as big as Aston fucking Villa.

I think the difference is that without them buying in they’d have gone bust and I’d guess that is more serious and has more implications.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Leeds should have gone bust. Forest were in the shit. Portsmouth ABSOLUTELY should have gone bust on an EFL watch.

If Villa deny a club a promotion place after this it will be in the courts. Certainty. So I hope they get fucking relegated the cheating hypocritical scum.

 

[The Bear]

Villa wouldn't have gone bust any way. Administration isn't the end of the club. And someone would then buy the club cheap and pump some money into it.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Exactly. And that is why this, if true, is a disgrace.

The EFL might as well admit FFP is dead. And after the AC case, UEFA might as well follow suit.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Villa wouldn't have gone bust any way. Administration isn't the end of the club. And someone would then buy the club cheap and pump some money into it.

Yeah, and then wipe out all the money that is owed to staff, EFL, other clubs and HMRC.

 

[Sniffer]

Yeah, and then wipe out all the money that is owed to staff, EFL, other clubs and HMRC.

Football creditors would have to be paid in full as part of any CVA wouldn't they?

If not it would have been bankruptcy and down to the fifth tier of the non league pyramid.

 

[Tony Towner]

Football creditors would have to be paid in full as part of any CVA wouldn't they?

Taxman and football get sorted, Bob the builder, Mrs Bunn the baker are the ones that get screwed

 

[Sniffer]

Taxman and football get sorted, Bob the builder, Mrs Bunn the baker are the ones that get screwed

Taxman doesn't he's at the same number in line with the other non secured creditors. It's why HMRC are so quick to issue winding up orders in the hope that they will be paid.

It's why they hate football clubs and the football creditor rule. I think they've challenged it in the past and lost.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yeah, HMRC used to be top of the list but not for over a decade now. They hate football clubs.

The more twattish clubs screw the likes of St John's Ambulance out of money.

 

[PuntsWolf]

They wouldn’t have gone bust. They have enough assets to liquidise and pay the bills. They’d have just had nothing left

 

[Penk Wolf]

Football creditors would have to be paid in full as part of any CVA wouldn't they?

If not it would have been bankruptcy and down to the fifth tier of the non league pyramid.

Not sure to be honest, but IMO bailing a club out and paying those that may depend on it is better than some football ruling.

 

[Sniffer]

Not sure to be honest, but IMO bailing a club out and paying those that may depend on it is better than some football ruling.

I agree, the takeover was best for all creditors and if the rules were changed regarding football creditors having secured status it would mean that all transfer dealings etc would be paid up front else risk losing the remainder.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I agree, the takeover was best for all creditors and if the rules were changed regarding football creditors having secured status would mean that all transfer dealings etc would be paid up front else risk losing the remainder.

The more likely consequence would be word getting around about clubs that are in trouble and in turn they wouldn't be able to buy anyone, no-one would deal with them.

Because of Pompey's multiple problems it took bloody ages for us to get our money for Halford. (Yes, they actually gave us real money for him, eventually anyway)