Another shooting.

[Alan]

You’d be hard pushed to find someone on here who wasn’t in favour of disarming the American citizenry. Mainly because America’s right to bear arms is batshit mental.

How am I supposed to exercise my right to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” without the ability to wield indiscriminate and nigh-effortless death?

 

[Alan]

I don't own a gun and never have. My family lost a member to a home invasion and the thought of getting a gun after that never entered my mind. Am I still a "Gun nut"?

You don't seem to offer any solutions yourself to gun violence. Are you in favor of disarming the American citizenry?

I’m sorry for your loss, but what exactly are you even arguing?

 

[AndyWolves]

I don't own a gun and never have. My family lost a member to a home invasion and the thought of getting a gun after that never entered my mind. Am I still a "Gun nut"?

You don't seem to offer any solutions yourself to gun violence. Are you in favor of disarming the American citizenry?

There you go.

I do have sympathy though, as the perception will be that anyone who gives up their gun will instantly become a target for criminals. Whether this reflects reality though I'm not sure, and i think depends on whether targets of crime owning guns has any impact at all on crime rates. I wonder how many potential criminals are put off by thinking their intended target is armed, or does is simply mean criminals are more likely to carry weapons themselves.

 

[SSB]

Wolverhampton getting in on the act now.

Shocking eyewitness footage shows moment gunshots fired in Wolverhampton

Shocking footage from an eyewitness has captured the moment at least seven shots were fired in the Whitmore Reans area of Wolverhampton.

www.expressandstar.com

 

[Keef]

Why are you speaking for someone else?

He was speaking on my behalf, because I’ve got you on ignore for being a weapons grade fucking idiot that I don’t want to interact with on a forum.
So now you know.

 

[Yankeewolf]

I'll leave with this. Obviously gun violence needs to be addressed. However, gun ownership, whether we agree with it or not, is a right guaranteed by the written and ratified law of the land (constitution) Disarming Americans would require the difficult process of amending article two of the constitution. You are still left with hundreds of untraceable weapons that will never be registered. This amendment, or any backdoor mechanism to disarm Americans would almost certainly lead to civil war, which would be a disaster. I don't know the complete answer , but we do know that America has always had millions of guns and that mass shootings are a fairly recent phenomenon. Part of the answer must surely lie in studying and understanding what changed.

Someone asserted that I was probably not a real Wolves fan but a troll. This is a discussion forum, and the subject was mass shootings which I tried to address in a reasonable manner. I have likely been to more Wolves games than most. I started in 1964, and for about a 10 year period hardly missed a game home or away. I have been to at least half of the grounds in the Football league.

UTW

 

[sycophantia]

Why are you speaking for someone else?

That's a fair comment, I was making an assumption based on his posts which dont make him seem like an absolute lunatic....turns out my assumption was right.

 

[sycophantia]

It would be a long, hard road to disarming the whole population but you have start somewhere or just accept lots innocent people are going to die.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

How did they do it in Australia?

 

[leedswolf]

I'll leave with this. Obviously gun violence needs to be addressed. However, gun ownership, whether we agree with it or not, is a right guaranteed by the written and ratified law of the land (constitution) Disarming Americans would require the difficult process of amending article two of the constitution. You are still left with hundreds of untraceable weapons that will never be registered. This amendment, or any backdoor mechanism to disarm Americans would almost certainly lead to civil war, which would be a disaster. I don't know the complete answer , but we do know that America has always had millions of guns and that mass shootings are a fairly recent phenomenon. Part of the answer must surely lie in studying and understanding what changed.

Someone asserted that I was probably not a real Wolves fan but a troll. This is a discussion forum, and the subject was mass shootings which I tried to address in a reasonable manner. I have likely been to more Wolves games than most. I started in 1964, and for about a 10 year period hardly missed a game home or away. I have been to at least half of the grounds in the Football league.

UTW

Mass shootings or not. I contend that one shooting is one too many?

 

[leedswolf]

How did they do it in Australia?

FIrearm buybacks and voluntary surrenders coupled with licencing.

 

[Keef]

9 teenagers injured at a after prom private party in jasper county Texas

 

[Alan]

He was speaking on my behalf, because I’ve got you on ignore for being a weapons grade fucking idiot that I don’t want to interact with on a forum.
So now you know.

Calling Alanis Morrisette...

 

[Johnny75]

I'll leave with this. Obviously gun violence needs to be addressed. However, gun ownership, whether we agree with it or not, is a right guaranteed by the written and ratified law of the land (constitution) Disarming Americans would require the difficult process of amending article two of the constitution. You are still left with hundreds of untraceable weapons that will never be registered. This amendment, or any backdoor mechanism to disarm Americans would almost certainly lead to civil war, which would be a disaster. I don't know the complete answer , but we do know that America has always had millions of guns and that mass shootings are a fairly recent phenomenon. Part of the answer must surely lie in studying and understanding what changed.

Someone asserted that I was probably not a real Wolves fan but a troll. This is a discussion forum, and the subject was mass shootings which I tried to address in a reasonable manner. I have likely been to more Wolves games than most. I started in 1964, and for about a 10 year period hardly missed a game home or away. I have been to at least half of the grounds in the Football league.

UTW

What a load of shite. Get in the bin with this garbage.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

As a step to disarmament maybe stop ownership of automatic weapons more at home on the frontline in Ukraine and only allow guns in private residences with a much stricter licensing system to carry in public? Small steps but that’s how all journeys start.

 

[PuntsWolf]

“Civil War”. So all the lunatics who don’t want to give up their gun start shooting the police/army. I’m assuming they’ll then get shot themselves and the problem is solved… Sounds like a better solution than doing nothing…

Fucking constitution nonsense too. It used to be legal tie up witches and throw them in the river, but we learnt it was fucking stupid and stopped doing it. The gun laws are no different.

 

[sycophantia]

It will take years of education and gentle persuasion, the majority are happy with the gun laws as they are.

 

[Tony Towner]

Unfortunately there is some merit in his comments. They are that nuts and have such support, money, power and reach that if it were to come to that there'd be so much bloodshed.

Let's face it, outright removal of guns from citizens isn't going to happen and you'd need a Democratic landslide of Congress and the Supreme Court to even attempt something vaguely meaningful which given Trumps appointments is at least 2 decades off

 

[Johnny75]

Unfortunately there is some merit in his comments. They are that nuts and have such support, money, power and reach that if it were to come to that there'd be so much bloodshed.

Let's face it, outright removal of guns from citizens isn't going to happen and you'd need a Democratic landslide of Congress and the Supreme Court to even attempt something vaguely meaningful which given Trumps appointments is at least 2 decades off

I can't imagine there will be many households on the East or West Costs would be that bothered by a tightening of gun laws.

 

[Tony Towner]

I can't imagine there will be many households on the East or West Costs would be that bothered by a tightening of gun laws.

There's a lot in the middle though, and the South East. The Dakotas have twice as many Senators as California, same for the Carolinas. Appreciate that's more about getting it through than the civil disobedience