Wolves 2 v 1 Liverpool: The Third Round Verdict

[Deleted Cyber]

"we have never had 2 better goalkeepers here at the same time" is disputed by those who watched Wolves in the 1950s (see post #109). So your summary is dismissing history. I'm glad that the club does not do that!

I wouldn't worry. Just Cyber playing...

I tried to resist I really did!

I don't think that any goalkeeper before Yashin and Banks would even play today. Both of those were short and light by today's standards, so Bert Williams doesn't make my list by default as I am not old enough. I may make an exception for Bert Trautmann who was a legend. But that's it. Soz and he is not ours!

 

[Parkins left foot]

Bert Williams would still have been a great keeper in this era - not the biggest, but incredible extension and no idea what he would have been like with modern physio & training facilities.

Even I'm not old enough to have seen him at his peak, but did catch the last couple of years.

Was Trautmann better - not entirely sure on that. The only thing most people know is that he played on in the 1956 cup final with an injury which turned out to be a broken neck bone

 

[Rui_CostCo]

Bert Williams would still have been a great keeper in this era - not the biggest, but incredible extension and no idea what he would have been like with modern physio & training facilities.

Even I'm not old enough to have seen him at his peak, but did catch the last couple of years.

Was Trautmann better - not entirely sure on that. The only thing most people know is that he played on in the 1956 cup final with an injury which turned out to be a broken neck bone

My Nan used to rave about Bert Williams

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Bert Williams would still have been a great keeper in this era - not the biggest, but incredible extension and no idea what he would have been like with modern physio & training facilities.

Even I'm not old enough to have seen him at his peak, but did catch the last couple of years.

Was Trautmann better - not entirely sure on that. The only thing most people know is that he played on in the 1956 cup final with an injury which turned out to be a broken neck bone

I bow to better knowledge. I have watched any fifties highlights I can find over the years but have to be honest at never being impressed at the keepers athleticism, speed , or agility. Bert Williams certainly has a great reputation. I am just a teeny bit jealous that you saw him play.

 

[VanWolfie]

I bow to better knowledge. I have watched any fifties highlights I can find over the years but have to be honest at never being impressed at the keepers athleticism, speed , or agility. Bert Williams certainly has a great reputation. I am just a teeny bit jealous that you saw him play.

Trautmann was a great goalkeeper and he won my admiration when he played for over 60 mins with a broken neck in the 1956 Cup Final (which I watched on TV) against B'ham City. But Bert Williams was slightly better as a shot stopper and more agile between the posts. Finlayson was more daring, diving at the feet of attackers when following through with the boot by attackers was de rigeur. I can't count the number of times I saw him having his head kicked in. If that happened today, there would be a donnybrook and multiple sendings-off. So, could they play in today's league, given all the sport science, equipment and diet regimens that are available? If one goes by agility, fearlessness and ability, than the answer is a resounding yes. Goalkeepers just aren't as tough as they used to have to be. And that includes Matt Murray, whose debut against Wimbledon at Selhurst Park I saw in the flesh. I tell you, Matt improved no end after that exceedingly shaky start. He became a great goalkeeper but his physique was a bit lop-sided and therefore his body did not stay the course. Steve Ogrivolich who played for Coventry wouldn't even rank, then or now!

 

[Pompey Wolf]

I was at Murray’s debut game as well, don’t think any of his kicks cleared the penalty area!

 

[Bertiewolf]

If we want to settle this on (lies, damned lies and) stats, then our best goalkeeper has to be the only one with a 100% win record - statistically better than anyone mentioned to date.

I give you Chick Brodie!

Also surprised no one has mentioned Fred Davies - didn't have quite the protection that Williams or Finlayson had from better defences, but still a terrific goalkeeper as it all started to unwind in the sixties.

 

[WolfmanOz]

Maybe we need a new thread re Wolves goalkeepers ?