Wolves 1-1 Southampton - Verdict Thread

[AndyWolves]

I'm sorry Alan but when you finish celebrating and all settle back in your seats for the kick off for the VAR notification blink up after well over a minute then the game is dead in the ground. Hope you all love the correct decisions on the telly but fuck it, I hate every single atom of its being.

It's the emotion of the game that fills the stadiums.

Taking away the most emotive part of the game ruins it completely

 

[Monstrum]

Just as a comparison, look at the travel rule in basketball. By the rules, you are allowed two steps without the ball. In the nba, they are constantly moving 3-4 steps, sometimes more. You almost never see a travel being called. It helps the flow of the game, and makes it a lot more exciting. Nobody wants to watch euro league fundamentals, we wanna see exciment and players dunking from the freethrow line

 

[Tony Towner]

I'm sorry Alan but when you finish celebrating and all settle back in your seats for the kick off for the VAR notification blink up after well over a minute then the game is dead in the ground. Hope you all love the correct decisions on the telly but fuck it, I hate every single atom of its being.

This, this and this again. The great and the good have kicked themselves in the bollocks and don't know how to get out of it. Today was a disgrace and destroys what it is to be a football fan in the ground. The players had set up to kick off before anyone knew there was a VAR check. I appreciate he was off, but that's not the game I want to watch. VAR is killing the game

 

[Norman Deeley]

Exactly right Alan (please don't fall over or think this will become a habit.

It's the fucktards in charge rather than the tech. The PGMOL isn't fit for purpose and should be scrapped.

Exactly right. But when was the last time a man in a suit said, "I made a decision but I got it wrong?" We're stuck with VAR

 

[Johnny75]

Sadly never ND.

 

[Derby Wolf]

I've already said, I'd have no problem with Southampton scoring the second today and it not being called as offside, this transcends Wolves winning and losing but the game its very self. It should be there for clear and obvious errors, not figuring out if somebody had a leg or knee bent six inches offside.

No Southampton player protested the goal which is telling.

I'm really quite desperate that Doherty dived, imagine been able to find a ridiculous offside but not a dive. Show it up for the fucking farce it is.

 

[Lupo]

Jesus Christ is a liability. Raul was my man of the match and Jonny was very good too. As you say, very little end product from Traore too.

Very impressed with Jota when he came on, good to see him back.

Redmond (son of Nuno) was excellent, very good player - nippy, busy, very good player.

I hate VAR but maybe it will feel better when one of the bastards goes our way. Mind you, pleased it allowed the penalty as looked like a dive from my lofty position.

All things considered I am satisfied with a draw.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

VAR isn't the issue. It's the way it's used. It's handball by Raul (not a yellow though) and if Cutrone is offside then he's offside. Shouldn't take that long to sort out though and show the conclusion for more than 0.2 seconds on the board.

Vallejo was horrific, a terrible square ball, a header which probably should have got Coady sent off and then an inexplicable pass off his wrong foot under no pressure. Not an option right now.

Traore was quiet, Saints' tactics had him under wraps. Elsewhere Jonny was superb and Joao was Joao. Good to see Raul being closer to his normal self and Jota was good when he came on.

We probably should have won, we were the better team (by whatever margin) but sometimes it doesn't quite drop your way. We're doing ok.

 

[ndorsetwolf]

Replay officiating works well in many sports, however, those in which it works best have a natural break in play regularly (ie cricket, NFL, rugby etc). Football has much more flow to it, therefore, the break and long delays caused by VAR kill the spontaneity.

It should be restricted to 'clear and obvious' errors, not checking the minutiae of every offside. If there ain't daylight, it ain't offside. If you check handball, if it is not clearly obvious and requiring many replays, it ain't handball.

They already dealt with the greatest errors with goalline tech, this is just overkill. Also, I seem to recall a lot of penalties being awarded (and overturned) at World cup trials, not sure I have seen one yet this season. Seems PGMOL buddies are just covering each others arses and refusing to second guess when they get the on pitch decision wrong.

System should work fine, but key component is banjaxed - the officials operating it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It was handball, the ref was going to blow and held back, Gunn half-stopped as Raul went through and he barely celebrated. That one in particular is not an issue (except the nonsense booking as he clearly didn't extend his arm).

 

[Aikiwolf]

I think it's fair to say that the current implementation of VAR has damaged the Premier League this season. As a product it is far less entertaining and has not lead to an improvement in decisions. Its fair to say VAR has been a failure so far and has been massively detrimental to the Premier league.

As for today, we were slow in possession lacked movement (Adama, I'm looking at you. Not a poor performance but sometimes you need to run into space to stretch the game).

Cutrone, I'm not sold on as a player in this team. Nice touch but doesn't really do anything with it.

Vallejo.... Bring back Danny Batth.

 

[Aikiwolf]

It was handball, the ref was going to blow and held back, Gunn half-stopped as Raul went through and he barely celebrated. That one in particular is not an issue (except the nonsense booking as he clearly didn't extend his arm).

On this, not sure why such an obvious handball wasn't called earlier? Not a handball imo but clearly a handball.

Perhaps this is an unforeseen side affect of VAR in that the ref feel if they're aren't sure they can just let the game go and rely on the tech to fix anything they've missed?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Yep, should just have been ruled out. The ref obviously saw it (he was poor for both teams all game, how Romeu has gone through 87 minutes without a card is crazy)

 

[YoungWolf]

On this, not sure why such an obvious handball wasn't called earlier? Not a handball imo but clearly a handball.

Perhaps this is an unforeseen side affect of VAR in that the ref feel if they're aren't sure they can just let the game go and rely on the tech to fix anything they've missed?

From watching at home, it really felt like the ref was constantly waiting for VAR to help him out. Every single foul/decision he seemed to be waiting to see if he should give a booking or overturn it etc. I was convinced Raul would get sent off at some point because of this. And yet Romeu (as Dan pointed out) managed to avoid getting booked at all!!

 

[jd1981]

The disallowed goals by the law are the right calls just highly annoying how long the second decision took. The offside wasn’t like Spurs V Leicester you can clearly see Cutrone leg is off side.
Burnley fans tho that’s was absurd to overturn that.
The rules for offside are set as long as it’s used consistently fair enough although we’ve never seen any conclusive stuff from Everton’s 2nd goal against us.
Personally don’t like the fact that sometimes you’re talking mm’s reason being technology isn’t advanced enough yet to judge such a tight call.

 

[playtheace]

With regards to the son of God, ive heard folk say how nervous he looks but i think thats just his style and how he hangs...same as how Bothwick J played like he was one of cheech and chong.

 

[Derby Wolf]

Peter Bankes our ref today, say no more. Utter waste of space.

 

[sycophantia]

Just seen the highlights on motd, can't really complain about the var decisions although the yellow card was harsh on Raul.
There was more contact on Doc than I was expecting given what I'd read, yes he did hang his leg out and made a meal of it but I think there would have been leg on leg contact anyway so just about a penalty for me

 

[t3ch]

It's the fucktards in charge rather than the tech.

mate I can only be so many places at once

 

[t3ch]

I tend to lean toward VAR implementation not being great, but... I don't really think it's time for all of this "BOLLOCKS JUST SCRAP IT" nonsense. we're 1/4 through the first season it's been used... I mean ffs.

having said that, I obviously find it as annoying as everyone else when they seem to use it in a weird way or slow things to a halt unnecessarily. also not sure what the attitudes of the refs/association have been so far, but it will certainly be problematic if they show an unwillingness to adapt the process to the game.

there's no reason why the premier league shouldn't be setting the gold standard.