Wolves 0-3 Brighton: Verdict Thread

[Lupo]

Been wondering - do we really have to sign Hwang?

Say Bruno does leave, before the end of the season or at the very end. I know we've announced that we intend to activate the clause in Hwang's loan deal to buy him, but until said clause is actually activated... is there actually any reason why we couldn't change our minds, citing a change in manager/transfer policy/whatever?

Hopefully we can just flip himto Walsall

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I've seen all sorts of excuses for him on social media. I even saw one person blame Nuno on Twitter saying he'd let the players get too comfortable and now Bruno is challenging them they don't like it. it can be a wild place Twitter and for some reason I've started seeing posts from people I don't even follow "based on your likes" but maybe it's an insight into the general consensus. Had a quick glance at another forum earlier and the poll on there was closer to 50 50

Mol Mix is around 49% go, then the rest split about evenly between stay and don't know.

Very rare that managers turn that kind of groundswell around. He goes on about it being fine to boo the players, they were booing you to start with Bruno, after you made yet another ridiculous substitution.

Then you get yet another garbled round of nonsense after full time where I recognise all the words but I can't make an ounce of sense out of what order they're in. His English is fine so really, he's just talking shit week after week, some of it is delusional, some of it is inane to the point of inviting comparisons to a certain Welsh convicted drink driver. You might say interviews don't matter but what if that's how he talks to the players after we've lost?

If transfer windows didn't exist then I could just about accept an argument to keep him. So if we started badly and he'd bought a load of crap, we could fix it. As it is, if you hand him money to spend and he wastes it and we're rubbish, that's it, we're locked into a shit season because he wouldn't get sacked before the end of August and then you're stuck with what you have, whoever the manager is. If you don't give him money, every shred of evidence suggests he can't get a tune out of these players (there are changes that need to be made, but they aren't *that* bad, not "lose 70% of your games" bad anyway) so what would be the point, you're just waiting for the inevitable.

All against a backdrop of them wanting tens of thousands of people in a predominantly economically deprived area where the current situation will be hurting a lot of them to shell out a lot of money to watch us. You no longer have a fake rebate, you can no longer claim you're just bringing us into line with other comparable clubs (a lie anyway), you no longer have people wanting to do anything at any cost because they've had very little/no social interaction for 18 months.

I think they *have* to sack him. I obviously want him sacked because I don't like him, but even objectively I can't see how it's tenable.

 

[Tony Towner]

He's not spending money, neither is anyone else as manager. We'll sign whoever Mendes wants us to + a few smaller gambles on younger players and the odd Sellars gamble. He loves Hwang, but we were linked with him 18 months ago, he's not his signing, although he's clearly happy with him. Just like Nuno wasn't interested in Hoever or Fabio...you get who you get

 

[Deano]

He's not spending money, neither is anyone else as manager. We'll sign whoever Mendes wants us to + a few smaller gambles on younger players and the odd Sellars gamble. He loves Hwang, but we were linked with him 18 months ago, he's not his signing, although he's clearly happy with him. Just like Nuno wasn't interested in Hoever or Fabio...you get who you get

Not sure on Hwang. There was an interview with Lage where he said he'd watched him for a couple of years and wanted to sign him when he was with Benfica. There was a lot when he was on loan too about how he liked him and wanted to push to make the move permanent.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

I think the reason the club haven't announced season ticket prices simply because they want to push them as high as possible but realise there is a lot of discontent. As Deutsch says above if they stick with Lage who has deliver Hoddle-esque levels of boredom and may well have lost the players, the only way they can reasonably sell tickets is spend a lot of money early in the window before the renewal date has passed. Alternatively they can get a new manager and talk big like recent windows and deliver nothing whilst hoping plenty of supporters buy into the Emperor's lovely new clothes. The latter option is far cheaper so we all know that's what will happen. I just hope they find a magician or relegation is a very real possibility next season if they don't spend even moderate amounts of money. Anyone who thinks that's over-dramatic would do well to look at Sheffield United last season and Leeds this season.

 

[jd1981]

Yep I’m already looking at who could be worse than us next season, want Burnley to survive as I think they’d still be in trouble next season. I think Fulham will be far better equipped this time around and if Forrest come up will cause sides lots of problems anyone else promoted I’m confident we’d come above.
After that I think we’re in the mix along with Saints, Leeds or Everton, Brentford for the final spot.

 

[White Wolf]

Not sure on Hwang. There was an interview with Lage where he said he'd watched him for a couple of years and wanted to sign him when he was with Benfica. There was a lot when he was on loan too about how he liked him and wanted to push to make the move permanent.

There was loads of noise about us looking at Hwang in 19/20 before we ended up with Podence. Think Salzburg were also reticent to let him go that January as they already lost Haaland and Minamino and Red Bull were thinking of switching him to Leipzig in the summer. The scouting team and the higher-ups definitely wanted him initially, Lage probably consented to it but the blame seems to primarily lie with our scouts etc. than the manager. I wonder who decided we should then buy him after one scoring run and a series of Championship-level performances, going off how much he seems to love him Lage must have surely been a factor here.

 

[Tredman]

It’s that or they’ll give it to Sellars or Tony Roberts.

Well that happened quickly.