Winter Improvement Thread (aka Winter Squad Weakening Thread and TWF Suicide Watch)

[ROVERT47]

I'm not really expecting anybody in permanently but maybe a defender on loan. We are going nowhere this season on or off the pitch and I would imagine the board know this. When we reach 54 pts (guaranteed safety mark) then I think we should bin the manager and give Rob Edwards the rest of the season and if he succeeds in a change of style and attacking flair then give him the gig permanently, if not get a manager in who can.

It's a no lose situation for all parties, even if a new owner comes in.

The voice of reason but as we know reason goes out of the window when there's an opportunity to buy players.

 

[YoungWolf]

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/wolves-in-talks-to-sign-emiliano-sala/?

We appear to be scouring the French league for new signings - £4m though?

 

[darlowolf64]

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/wolves-in-talks-to-sign-emiliano-sala/?

We appear to be scouring the French league for new signings - £4m though?

4 million Euro....

 

[SSB]

I can't see what Jackett sees in Chris Wood. Everytime I've seen him played he's been useless.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

I can't see what Jackett sees in Chris Wood. Everytime I've seen him played he's been useless.

Leon Clarke, Yannick Sagbo, Danny Graham..... He has a keen eye does Kenny.

 

[ROVERT47]

I can't see what Jackett sees in Chris Wood. Everytime I've seen him played he's been useless.

I tend to agree, a Leon Clarke upgrade.

 

[Kenny]

I can't see what Jackett sees in Chris Wood. Everytime I've seen him played he's been useless.

Did well for him at Millwall didn't he until Leicester swooped in and took him away.

 

[Quirkafleeg]

Did well for him at Millwall didn't he until Leicester swooped in and took him away.

The Ade Akinbiyi effect, as they call it in the trade..

 

[Alan]

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2016/wolves-in-talks-to-sign-emiliano-sala/?

We appear to be scouring the French league for new signings - £4m though?

2 goals and 1 assist in 15 appearances this season... Hardly inspiring stuff.

 

[Norman Deeley]

We seem to be getting desperate...
Maybe correct approach is to sign nobody in window, given Byrne and Wallace a chance, but at least for the club to have the guts/common sense to come out and say so

 

[Papper]

I get that but at the moment we have 8 million burning a hole and enough gaps in the squad to make it look like swiss cheese. I will be really really pissed if some if not all that money is not spent improving this bang average paper thin squad

I suspect without the parachute the finances will look far different next season but it'll be interesting to see the latest accounts and the cash flow forecasts for next season. The crowds have been poor unless they heavily discount tickets etc etc and that academy isn't cheap to run. Wolves aren't the club who can go out and splash five or six million on a player.

 

[Johnny75]

I think this whole parachute payments idea is a myth. The Wolves wage bill is at it's lowest for years with all the big earners now gone. The transfer dealings are a net positive and income hasn't really changed. You could argue that last year's profit was the parachute payments and this years profits will be the Afobe transfer (if not spent).

So using the parachute payments as a reason not to spend the Afobe money is a bit of a nonsense to me. I will caveat this by saying I have no idea what the wage bill is and can only assume Sako, Afobe and Stearman's wages were more than Coady, ALF, Zyro, Wallace and Byrne are.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It is a direct £8m hit to the budget. IE - almost a whole Afobe.

 

[Papper]

I think we are slow to react and haven't correctly identified targets within our budget. This has happened over the summer and so far this window.

I think you're bang on there and we are quite right to cast judgment. I don't think the astute signing of Afobe masks an overall failure. Have they ever found another Jarvis or Kightly? Would any of our signings got into Mick's promotion winning team. It would be a brave man who would have broken up the SEB/BCI partnership with Afobe.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I think this whole parachute payments idea is a myth. The Wolves wage bill is at it's lowest for years with all the big earners now gone. The transfer dealings are a net positive and income hasn't really changed. You could argue that last year's profit was the parachute payments and this years profits will be the Afobe transfer (if not spent).

So using the parachute payments as a reason not to spend the Afobe money is a bit of a nonsense to me. I will caveat this by saying I have no idea what the wage bill is and can only assume Sako, Afobe and Stearman's wages were more than Coady, ALF, Zyro, Wallace and Byrne are.

To be fair, the £10m profit last year was re-adjusting the previous years adjustments, i.e. O'Hara's wages going back in, etc.

 

[Johnny75]

It is a direct £8m hit to the budget. IE - almost a whole Afobe.

And if we hadn't made £8m profit I would think this was true but isn't that the net profit figure form last years accounts? Therefore not make a jot of difference.

 

[Johnny75]

To be fair, the £10m profit last year was re-adjusting the previous years adjustments, i.e. O'Hara's wages going back in, etc.

I get that, more the parachute money I was getting at. Not really choosing to beat the club and as I said earlier to Trev, I don't think we will spend much of the Afobe money and more than that I hope they don't give any to Jackett as he can't spend it.

If next years budget is this years and a good portion of the Afobe money given to a change of manager and recruitment set up then I will be much more comfortable with that. Giving money to the same people to not play those players or purchase outright pups would be a very silly move by Wolves.

 

[Wombat del combate]

Joe Mason would cost £5-6m to acquire him from Cardiff according to a report on the BBC.

 

[Johnny75]

Joe Mason would cost £5-6m to acquire him from Cardiff according to a report on the BBC.

Thank fuck for that. Puts us out of the running.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I get that, more the parachute money I was getting at. Not really choosing to beat the club and as I said earlier to Trev, I don't think we will spend much of the Afobe money and more than that I hope they don't give any to Jackett as he can't spend it.

If next years budget is this years and a good portion of the Afobe money given to a change of manager and recruitment set up then I will be much more comfortable with that. Giving money to the same people to not play those players or purchase outright pups would be a very silly move by Wolves.

But if you take that money out and the parachute money you'll be in loss territory. Then this season, Afobe's money will probably put us to break even point.

As TSB alluded to the other day, we don't need to break even, we can have debt and a loss as long as we can service that debt. So, if we borrowed £30m and paid back £2m a year it really wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately, Moxey is under the impression that their has to always be + in the profit column with no debt.