West Ham 2-1 Wolves: Verdict Thread

[Elephant Pyjamas]

He had that list of players rehearsed, no way he reeled all those off the top of his head.

Fair enough though.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Admittedly I was out and missed the first half, but based on the second half I didn't think we looked like anything much worth writing home about. Did we look any better in the first half?

Not a huge amount in the game but we probably kept the ball better and Joao missed the best chance of the half by a mile.

Not saying we were particularly special at any stage but I think it's a big stretch to suggest West Ham were comfortable winners. Johnstone has made one serious save I think.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If he thinks Diego Costa is making a difference he is even more deluded than i thought

 

[Mel Evo]

Fair enough though.

Perhaps, but when it comes to key departures that weren’t adequately replaced he missed off Nuno and Lopetegui.

 

[Trips]

Even if you think both possible penalties were not penalties both West Ham goals were incorrect. Not a corner as you said & also a clear foul in build up to Bowen’s goal. Others will tell me I am wrong but Sky, Carragher & GON all agree with me.

I've only seen the goals, but the incoreect corner award isn't the reason they score, just defend it properly. On the second, yes its a foul but when it's not given, maybe Guedes not bottling a tackle and turning away from Bowen would have helped prevent the goal.

It's wank defending on both goals, a common theme under O'Neil. Control what you can control

 

[BeaverWolf]

Come on man, FFS

You know better than Sky, Carragher & GON - fair enough. What are you saying - that we were well dealt with by the officials tonight?

 

[Loki]

Not a huge amount in the game but we probably kept the ball better and Joao missed the best chance of the half by a mile.

Not saying we were particularly special at any stage but I think it's a big stretch to suggest West Ham were comfortable winners. Johnstone has made one serious save I think.

Ar, perspective people.

 

[BeaverWolf]

I've only seen the goals, but the incoreect corner award isn't the reason they score, just defend it properly. On the second, yes its a foul but when it's not given, maybe Guedes not bottling a tackle and turning away from Bowen would have helped prevent the goal.

It's wank defending on both goals, a common theme under O'Neil. Control what you can control

No corner - it does not happen. It is what they are saying on Sky.

 

[prawnking]

If you're buying into constant hard luck stories to explain away how poor the manager is, you're only fooling yourself

 

[Trips]

No corner - it does not happen. It is what they are saying on Sky.

They also said its a tough one for the officials to spot. Why you're placing no blame on the players/coaching is bizarre. We've conceded 15 from set pieces this season, they haven't all been incorrectly awarded

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

No corner - it does not happen. It is what they are saying on Sky.

Not much of a stretch to imagine we might have conceded off another set piece if that one didn't exist. Given that we've conceded more goals from set pieces at this stage of the season than any other team in the entire 32 year history of the Premier League.

 

[Jack Regan]

This opening from the Guardian report basically sums up what you need to know about the game.

"Pitted against the incompetence of Wolves’ defending, the mediocrity of West Ham’s performance was not enough to bring about the end of Julen Lopetegui’s unhappy reign."

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It doesnt make the defending better though. West Ham might have done the routine from their next corner.

VAR is becoming a shield for the incompetent in the dug out

 

[BeaverWolf]

Looked like Soucek was Lemina's man on the corner, but he got blocked off. Would need to see it again though. And what's the point?
We were second best, VAR calls or not. I don't think things will improve without 3 or 4 good signings whoever is in charge. Hope I'm wrong. Time will tell I suppose.

He was cleverly blocked off but it did not amount to a foul.

 

[Wolftone]

This is the same argument as Sa lining up a wall badly, that allows Ashley Young to pass a ball round the side of it into the goal. I honestly don't know why that is O'Neils fault. These are multi-million £ professional footballers not kids in a park.
Maybe a P.E. teacher is required.

 

[Wolftone]

He was cleverly blocked off but it did not amount to a foul.

Not saying it did. It's amateurish by Lemina.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Not much of a stretch to imagine we might have conceded off another set piece if that one didn't exist. Given that we've conceded more goals from set pieces at this stage of the season than any other team in the entire 32 year history of the Premier League.

The irony is, on the previous 9 corners they'd done very little. Despite SJ not coming for a single one.

Then they block off his marker and it's a free header and the keeper is in no man's land.

 

[Jinky]

If you're buying into constant hard luck stories to explain away how poor the manager is, you're only fooling yourself

I don’t think anyone is doing this?

I’ve literally said in my earlier post - he’s shit, he deserves the sack. But in respect to tonight, the VAR decisions (or lack of) were a joke. To have one go against you is fair enough - but three? And all massive moments.

As EP said, we can be shit, the manager can be useless and we can still agree we’ve been on the end of some shite decisions tonight. Not sure why some are kicking back at that.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

This is the same argument as Sa lining up a wall badly, that allows Ashley Young to pass a ball round the side of it into the goal. I honestly don't know why that is O'Neils fault. These are multi-million £ professional footballers not kids in a park.
Maybe a P.E. teacher is required.

Well I'd say it's on him that we're so mentally weak that we continually score and then concede again immediately after, throwing away the work we've just done.

If that's not his fault then what is?

 

[Mel Evo]

This is the same argument as Sa lining up a wall badly, that allows Ashley Young to pass a ball round the side of it into the goal. I honestly don't know why that is O'Neils fault. These are multi-million £ professional footballers not kids in a park.
Maybe a P.E. teacher is required.

The manager is not important. That’s what you’re saying? Or is he? Which is it?