Welcome to Wolves Rui Patricio

[YoungWolf]

I'd say he's better than Lloris, but putting him ahead of De Gea is a bit of a stretch..

Don't know how I forgot about De Gea - ignore that!

 

[Deleted Cyber]

I have to say his handling has , by and large, been better than I expected as he came here with a bit of a "flappy hands" rap on occassions. Kennys opinion I fully respect as he sees and hears things in the ground that my TV does not, and I know he has heard Rui organising. He is good but not world class. But then who would I have instead of him? Kepa and Leno cost a shit load of money and dont seem like upgrades. Kepa in particular doesnt look an 80m keeper. Leno was MOTM for Arsenal against us so he is heading in the right direction. In terms of this league De Gea, Allisson, Ederson are the top three and Rui is in the Schmiecal, Lloris, Foster,Heaton, group. My keeper for the future tip is Gunn at Saints. He looks the part. If I were scotland I would be nabbing him quickly before he gets a call up for the full England side- only just 23. He is England U21 so can still choose(IIRC?)

 

[Kenny]

I think the "doesn't command his box" thing started when he really blew it in the first match against Cardiff for their opener (I think that's the correct match to be recalling).

In general though he is so good at that, so sure handed and his footwork makes his claims look so easy because he almost never has to stretch to get any but the most dangerous balls in.

Yeah he got bullied, but that is 3 months into the season. He presumed he would get the free kick when Paterson touched him and stopped. VAR *might* have helped him out but in real time, no ref is giving that one. He just joined the list of nearly every player have a mare in that ace week of ours.

 

[YoungWolf]

That goal would definitely not have stood with VAR. Paterson is actually looking at Patricio and not the ball and then moves towards him instead of trying to get to the ball.

 

[t3ch]

Isn't Leno having a pretty good season?

either way, can't imagine more than a few GK's in the league we'd want to trade with. he's given some up, but as mentioned, everyone does.

I recall some earlier instances where he didn't get a cross right or there was miscommunication with the backline, but that seems to have sorted itself with time/familiarity. It's hard to be too upset over having him on the team. We're pretty lucky with our keeper situation; Ruddy on the bench!

edit -- geez you guys are quick today

 

[Johnny75]

In terms of this league De Gea, Allyson, Ederson are the top three and Rui is in the Schmiecal, Lloris, Foster,Heaton, group. My keeper for the future tip is Gunn at Saints. He looks the part. If I were scotland I would be nabbing him quickly before he gets a call up for the full England side- only just 23. He is England U21 so can still choose(IIRC?)

I would agree with that, even the PES spelling.

I think Leno is on the same level as Rui but Kepa is at best a top 10 'keeper.

 

[Kenny]

That goal would definitely not have stood with VAR. Paterson is actually looking at Patricio and not the ball and then moves towards him instead of trying to get to the ball.

Pretty much

Also on that goal, Rui has had a mare but we then defend like chumps. The ball lands 6 yards from goal, the player has a heavy touch before scoring. We have 3 defenders who basically stand on the line and watch him

 

[Tony Towner]

Deutsch used to have a bee in his bonnet about Ikeme getting beaten from 25 yard hits that although individually weren't his fault as a collective body of work suggested a weakness beyond coincidence.

I think I'm of a similar view with Rui with shots from 20 yards across his body into the far corner. I don't blame him for Hazard, McNeill or McTominey in isolation, but not saving any looks like a weakness.

Am I on my own?

 

[Kenny]

He saves plenty and generally it is his positioning that has made the save simple.

Telling thing on the last 2 scored past him is how quickly they get the shot in after the touch. That is a nightmare for a keeper as you are still sorting out your feet/position.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Deutsch used to have a bee in his bonnet about Ikeme getting beaten from 25 yard hits that although individually weren't his fault as a collective body of work suggested a weakness beyond coincidence.

I think I'm of a similar view with Rui with shots from 20 yards across his body into the far corner. I don't blame him for Hazard, McNeill or McTominey in isolation, but not saving any looks like a weakness.

Am I on my own?

The thing is with Ikeme is you could identify a root cause, his positioning was poor and his footwork was worse. He was never in the right position in any sense to make the save and so shot after shot flew past him. You could use a cricket analogy, Michael Vaughan used to get bowled a lot and it'd look like an absolute peach of a delivery, cannoning back the stumps. But it was a technical flaw in his game, they weren't worldie deliveries at all, just as these weren't amazing strikes that were beating Carl regularly.

If there is such a fault with Rui (doesn't necessarily have to be the same thing) then I haven't spotted it yet but worth keeping an eye on.

He saves plenty and generally it is his positioning that has made the save simple.

Telling thing on the last 2 scored past him is how quickly they get the shot in after the touch. That is a nightmare for a keeper as you are still sorting out your feet/position.

Conditions did for him last night. That zips off the turf. It was absolutely bucketing down from just before kick off through most of the first half and we'd had plenty of rain/hail earlier in the day too.

 

[Kenny]

If there is such a fault with Rui (doesn't necessarily have to be the same thing) then I haven't spotted it yet but worth keeping an eye on.

I have watched Rui closely a lot this season and what will come across as a routine save is made so by his positioning. So I personally have no problem with him in on that.

Of course he has made mistakes that have cost us goals but name a keeper in the Prem that has been flawless this season.

It's been nice to see the weakest part of his game improve. He now has his kicking at an average level but he started out on 4 year kicking for the first time level in August.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It seems churlish to even be discussing Rui in this way after some of the amazing saves he pulled off last night. I’m a bit staggered to see it.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Nowt wrong with constructive criticism/analysis (as I say, I don't see an issue at the moment, the sample size is too small, I can't see a technical problem and they're three legitimately fine strikes - but fair enough for the question to be asked).

Joao was fantastic last night (as ever) but if you ask me for my view on *that* corner...

 

[PuntsWolf]

I don’t think he could do anything about McNeil or Hazard they were good strikes in bottom corner through bodies etc.

Last night wasn’t hit that well and was a yard inside post before he touched it. Murray thinks he should save it, and from an ex GK and now a coach I’ll go with him.

 

[Kenny]

On a dry pitch maybe. No chance on that pitch last night

 

[Dublin Drummer Wolf]

It was a super shot in fairness to Mctominay, got the shot off quickly and put it exactly where you would want him to, inside the far post. In Rui's defence, the shot skidded off the grass at speed, making it very difficult to stop.

Watching it in real time I thought it was an excellent goal to finish a fine move.

 

[The Bear]

He probably would have saved it on a drier pitch, but you could also agree with Murray that had he been a step further forward, that would have been enough to narrow the angle enough for him to save it too.

 

[Dinowolf]

I think what Matt Murray said was that he thought Rui's starting position for the shot was a little too deep, and having watched it several times from different angles I agree with that.

I hope it's an isolated event, (after all no-one is perfect), and that Rui's reputation gained over years of top class football games, is genuine.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If you want to judge his reputation look at the miracle save from a header from five yards in the second half. Tells you all you need to know.

No keeper is perfect, but I feel we are blessed to have Rui. Lloris bollocked up a far more routine save a few days ago, plus De Gea didn't have his best game last night.

 

[Kenny]

Miracle save is a bit OTT. It's a superb save for a couple of reasons but it ain't no miracle

Watching back, the save from Lingard was also superb