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[Deleted Cyber]

http://www.statisticbrain.com/voting-statistics/ I think this means that only 58% of 18 to 24 year olds eligible to vote registered to do so. Disgrace

 

[Deleted Cyber]

Yeah I agree. I'm not content to sit back and think 'ah well' when someone like Trump somehow manages to get elected. It's abhorrent. I think I've a duty to my kids to educate them into understanding that treating people in the way Trump does simply isn't acceptable. As it seems millions of people don't really give a $#@! what he says or does or how he treats other people. It's sad.

Correct Langer's but millions of people also don't give a shit about others and have never had need to. People like u are in the majority in the UK IMHO as we are far more diverse and aware. It is very clear that there are different values in lklkarge numbers across the pond

 

[Jinky]

He will build a wall, and rightly so. The EU and Israel can offer advice on how to build one.

It's literally not even possible to build a wall. You're talking about thousands and thousands of miles of rough, rocky terrain and cliff faces. It's impossible to "build a wall". It's all hyperbolic BS.

Trumps persona and more reasoned comments immediately in the aftermath of victory are the one, small encouragement that everyone can take from this. It seems much of his controversial statements in the run up to this election were purely to tug on peoples emotions and heartstrings. Lets "make America great again" doesn't mean anything, but people love a great quote & ultimately, it worked.

Hopefully he will now be reigned in by his advisers and make a good fist of it. Only time will tell - but I do agree with other posters, the internet loves a meltdown.

 

[Penk Wolf]

http://www.statisticbrain.com/voting-statistics/

55.6% turned up to vote.

18-24 58.5%
25-34 66.4%
35-44 69.9%
45-54 73.5%
55-64 76.6%
65-74 78.1%
Over 75 76.6%

So 55.6% turned up to vote, but in each age set more than 55.6% voted?

 

[Langers]

Only time will tell - but I do agree with other posters, the internet loves a meltdown.

I fail to see how this is such a bad thing? Isn't the fact so many people are talking and engaging in political debate a good thing, regardless of their alignment?

I've educated myself far more as a result of reading and listening to various people on here, Facebook, links to articles etc than I ever would have if I listened to the politicians themselves. Again, on both sides of the fence.

More people need to he politically aware. I daresay the results of the last few elections here and over the pond would have been different too.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

55.6% turned up to vote.

18-24 58.5%
25-34 66.4%
35-44 69.9%
45-54 73.5%
55-64 76.6%
65-74 78.1%
Over 75 76.6%

So 55.6% turned up to vote, but in each age set more than 55.6% voted?

I think that's the % in relation to registered so 76% of over 75 registered to vote

 

[nimrod]

55.6% turned up to vote.

18-24 58.5%
25-34 66.4%
35-44 69.9%
45-54 73.5%
55-64 76.6%
65-74 78.1%
Over 75 76.6%

So 55.6% turned up to vote, but in each age set more than 55.6% voted?

isn't that percentage referring to voting registrations not actual votes?

not sure why it's a disgrace not to vote anyway. choice isn't it?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Hmmm

But if the overall average turnout across age groups was 55.6% then those age group category percentages mathematically cannot be correct. There are no averages below 55.6% to balance those above that figure.

IGNORE ME - didn't realise it was registration. And then the 55.6% is turnout. Which then means the two figures have no meaning against each other really so what's the point of the figure?

 

[FrankMunro-371]

isn't that percentage referring to voting registrations not actual votes?

not sure why it's a disgrace not to vote anyway. choice isn't it?

It is, but people who can't be bothered to vote cannot really complain about the result.

 

[Deleted Cyber]

isn't that percentage referring to voting registrations not actual votes?

not sure why it's a disgrace not to vote anyway. choice isn't it?

Agreed totally but I believe you then can't bleat about the outcome. If 45% of Americans didn't vote then my sympathies are minimal as they get what they deserve. I understand brexit dissenters far more as there was a significant difference in turnout

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMl3E6CgVk3/

 

[So Long Architect]

Correct Langer's but millions of people also don't give a shit about others and have never had need to. People like u are in the majority in the UK IMHO as we are far more diverse and aware. It is very clear that there are different values in lklkarge numbers across the pond

Can't see how this is true or we'd never have a Conservative government. People on the Liberal left (including myself in this) tend to talk a good game, like to try and persuade other with their brilliant arguments and will generally blather on till the cows come home, and thus seem like they're more numerous than they really are. The rest of the populace either doesn't engage at all or votes according to what they think is in their self-interest, which tends not to be left-wards.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

Reaction from a colleague at work to Trump's victory - 'As long as it doesn't affect my life, I don't really care.' Sums up why the world is the way it is really.

 

[Penk Wolf]

Can't see how this is true or we'd never have a Conservative government. People on the Liberal left (including myself in this) tend to talk a good game, like to try and persuade other with their brilliant arguments and will generally blather on till the cows come home, and thus seem like they're more numerous than they really are. The rest of the populace either doesn't engage at all or votes according to what they think is in their self-interest, which tends not to be left-wards.

Do you not think that the majority of people give a shit about others, but different people do to different levels?

 

[So Long Architect]

Do you not think that the majority of people give a shit about others, but different people do to different levels?

In their day to day lives, yes I do think people are generally decent, tolerant and treat others with respect. That's been my experience here and abroad. But when it comes to politics and voting, a lot of people seem to vote in line with what they see as their self-interest regardless of the impact on others. People worry about the pound in their own pocket. They've got families and responsibilities so I totally understand it but it tends to lead to the political landscape that we have now which I don't really like.

 

[nimrod]

It is, but people who can't be bothered to vote cannot really complain about the result.

of course they can. if you go out for a meal and the menu choice you're provided is dog shit or cow shit, i'd expect you to complain.

the response, "you can't complain because you didn't try either" would be a disgrace.

 

[nimrod]

Agreed totally but I believe you then can't bleat about the outcome. If 45% of Americans didn't vote then my sympathies are minimal as they get what they deserve. I understand brexit dissenters far more as there was a significant difference in turnout

https://www.instagram.com/p/BMl3E6CgVk3/

so you agree that choosing not to vote is not a disgrace? in which case, why did you say it was?

 

[FrankMunro-371]

of course they can. if you go out for a meal and the menu choice you're provided is dog shit or cow shit, i'd expect you to complain.

the response, "you can't complain because you didn't try either" would be a disgrace.

I cannot really see the comparison between a meal, where you pay for your food, and a free vote. Personally, I vote at every election, whether local or national. If others choose not to vote, then that is their prerogative, but having not bothered to vote, they can have no complaints about the outcome. In every election, it is the stay aways who ultimately decide on the outcome.

 

[Jinky]

If others choose not to vote, then that is their prerogative, but having not bothered to vote, they can have no complaints about the outcome.

Difficult to argue with that.

 

[Penk Wolf]

I cannot really see the comparison between a meal, where you pay for your food, and a free vote. Personally, I vote at every election, whether local or national. If others choose not to vote, then that is their prerogative, but having not bothered to vote, they can have no complaints about the outcome. In every election, it is the stay aways who ultimately decide on the outcome.

I didn't vote in the EU referendum, not because I couldn't be bothered, but because I really didn't know which way to vote. Does that mean I can't complain about the impact it has on me now and in the future?

 

[Premier Quality]

Can't see how this is true or we'd never have a Conservative government. People on the Liberal left (including myself in this) tend to talk a good game, like to try and persuade other with their brilliant arguments and will generally blather on till the cows come home, and thus seem like they're more numerous than they really are. The rest of the populace either doesn't engage at all or votes according to what they think is in their self-interest, which tends not to be left-wards.

I kind of agree with that - though my personal view is that the left views tend to be theoretical, whereas right views tend to be practical. People tend to love to discuss theories, but less so practicalities. I have friends on both sides (All intelligent, compassionate, sensible people), the lefties tend to shower facebook in links, the righties tend to just get on with life.

If you judged by forums or facebook you'd assume the left would romp home every time.