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Things that make you SAD thread.

Unfathomable how people can hurt innocent children. There is no punishment that befits this kind of crime in our justice system.
I don't think there is a justice system in the world that has anything that befits this type of crime.
 
If Hell is real...

These stories are just a reminder of why I shouldn't have children. I would properly lose it if something like that happened to my child. Dangerously so.

I try my best to give people the benefit of the doubt. These stories make it seem pointless to do so.
 
Just hang them - you could easily have a law where the murder of a child by an adult is punished more severely.
 
I would, gladly, pull the handle. Is there something wrong with me?
Do you not think it's better they'll spend the rest of their lives as scared and bullied as the victim was? If you hang someone, if their neck doesn't break they die in four minutes anyway, this way she'll have the rest of her life to consider her actions
 
Do you not think it's better they'll spend the rest of their lives as scared and bullied as the victim was? If you hang someone, if their neck doesn't break they die in four minutes anyway, this way she'll have the rest of her life to consider her actions
Realistically if you gave these people a choice, execution or prison with a chance of release at some point - they'd choose prison. It's just not justice, IMO.

Also if the reason being given for sending them to prison instead of executing them is along the lines of, "well they'll get tortured and it'll be worse than death", it kind of undermines the usual arguments that the reason for not executing people is based on compassion and not wanting to be barbarous
 
Sorry, I think if there is something within the human brain that sees this as acceptable, that brain is beyond repair. Save the expense of a full life term.
 
Sorry, I think if there is something within the human brain that sees this as acceptable, that brain is beyond repair. Save the expense of a full life term.
I agree, I have doubts that people like this are able to be rehabilitated ....as for, is punishment an acceptable idea? In these cases it is for me....I just have to accept this the person I am.
Then you move onto what is an appropriate punishment? I guess I'm just a horrible person cos either death penalty or whole life incarceration is fine by me.
 
Oh don't get me wrong, the things I could do to these people without showing any sign of remorse is unprintable, but that's more about me rather than what is right
 
Capital punishment is just wrong. Whole life orders are the way to go. I notice that neither of the guilty women in this case received a whole life order in sentencing.

A double whole life order was passed down today in another case (David Fuller who committed 2 murders and also abused 102 corpses in a mortuary).
 
Seeing the pictures of Star & Ella Rose in the papers today (& reading about what they suffered during their short lives) is sickening.

I can well remember the wonder (& apprehension of the fact that I was now partially resposible for this small human) when my children were born

There is no way most of us can understand the mentality of anyone who can do this - capital punishment is not the way, carries risks of an incorrect decision and takes them out of any pain anyway.

Agree with Pad that whole of life with no parole is necessary, but would icarcerate them on an unihabited island off the West coast of Scotland with very basic accommodation & a weekly basic food drop from a helicopter & no personal interaction.
 
They are child killers. They will be in isolation for their own safety. Plenty of lifers won’t mind a whole life order to take them out.
 
Just heard a lad from my eldests year group and junior football team committed suicide, never really recovered from his best mates death a year ago from a brain tumour, another guy from the same team....that's 3 school mates from my lads year passed away over the last few years, all nice lads, all in their 30s
 
Around about now I'd be ringing my mum to wish her a Happy Christmas. She passed in late 2019 and so, with everything over the last year I didn't notice it before. I really miss her and I miss the call I should be making.
Happy Christmas Mum
 
Broke the yolk on my first fried egg of the year :(
 
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