The wolves Way

[MARKakaJIM]

Exactly how 'local' is this talent that Wolves are, or at least going to be, nurturing anyway? Do they still 'buy in' a lot of academy players from other clubs at sort of 15/16 or whatever?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Exactly how 'local' is this talent that Wolves are, or at least going to be, nurturing anyway? Do they still 'buy in' a lot of academy players from other clubs at sort of 15/16 or whatever?

Quite, the best talents in the Academy at the moment are Enokbhare, Wilson and Ronan. None of them are local.

Not sure where Ennis is from, he's probably next up. Batth is local but wasn't a Wolves fan as a kid. Nor was Karl Henry.

 

[BlueSkies]

The reason they can offer the wages is because they are in the top flight and on a goldmine. If promoted, our wage structure would also massively change again.

Not really, even when we were in the premiership we were one of the lowest payers and rightly so but could you ever imagine wolves offering a 65 grand a week contract like Palace just have ? It wont ever happen , that's not how we go about things

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We were paying O'Hara £40k a week four years ago. The TV money has vastly increased since.

 

[BlueSkies]

You keep banging on about us not paying wages, there is no evidence of that at all.

I'll accept that a tiny minority prefer the Championship, it's flawed logic but each to their own. Peddling myths about our budget isn't really on though.

In our third season of premier league football we were in the bottom 3 clubs in wages which I don't have a problem with but we need to adjust expectations accordingly and accept its unlikely we will ever sustain premiership football following this model, even if it is the right way of doing things protecting our long term financial health

 

[Tony Towner]

We weren't. Albion, Swansea and Norwich all paid less than we did

 

[BlueSkies]

We were paying O'Hara £40k a week four years ago. The TV money has vastly increased since.

40 k isn't 65 k and where is your evidence he was on that? I highly doubt we would sanction those wages, he was reportedly on just over 30 grand a week which is less than half the 65k plus he was our highest paid player by a country mile along with Johnson.

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Quite, the best talents in the Academy at the moment are Enokbhare, Wilson and Ronan. None of them are local.

Not sure where Ennis is from, he's probably next up. Batth is local but wasn't a Wolves fan as a kid. Nor was Karl Henry.

Long track record of similar deals too with the likes of Cassidy, Evans and Reid though they were a little older.

Essentially no better than the greedy PL clubs that the OP is raging against, using the bigger budget to skim the cream from lesser clubs for their own gain, Wolves are no different, just running the same scheme at a lower level. For every promising youngster that the biggest clubs are poaching from lower PL and Championship clubs you can bet your life that those clubs who've fallen victim are hoovering up twice as many youngsters from L1 and L2 looking for their next cash cow.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

40 k isn't 65 k and where is your evidence he was on that? I highly doubt we would sanction those wages, he was reportedly on just over 30 grand a week which is less than half the 65k plus he was our highest paid player by a country mile along with Johnson.

The irony of you asking for evidence after the shite you've pumped out on this thread.

 

[Johnny75]

It's surprising this WUM has been given the time he has on this thread. He's clearly trolling now.

 

[BlueSkies]

We weren't. Albion, Swansea and Norwich all paid less than we did

No they didn't and none of those clubs were in their 3rd year of premier league football

 

[Tony Towner]

It's surprising this WUM has been given the time he has on this thread. He's clearly trolling now.

You and me both, it's been clear from the first post

 

[BlueSkies]

It's surprising this WUM has been given the time he has on this thread. He's clearly trolling now.

You were accusing me of being a WUM whatever that is on page 1, seems to be a defence mechanism after hearing things you don't agree with. If you cant debate points log off and come back when you can

 

[Lycan]

Long track record of similar deals too with the likes of Cassidy, Evans and Reid though they were a little older.

Essentially no better than the greedy PL clubs that the OP is raging against, using the bigger budget to skim the cream from lesser clubs for their own gain, Wolves are no different, just running the same scheme at a lower level. For every promising youngster that the biggest clubs are poaching from lower PL and Championship clubs you can bet your life that those clubs who've fallen victim are hoovering up twice as many youngsters from L1 and L2 looking for their next cash cow.

Aye, Sir Jack's dream of a team of Wolverhampton born players will never happen. I don't think there's anything wrong with what we do though, we can certainly feel proud that our academy produced a player like Dom Iorfa despite buying him from Gillingham or whoever it was at a young age.

 

[BlueSkies]

You and me both, it's been clear from the first post

so you expect us not to pay overly inflated wages other clubs do yet compete on a level playing field from a footballing viewpoint.. meanwhile in the real world. My view is even at the expense of being in the greed league it's better to stick to a wage structure that is self sustainable but expecting to beat or compete with clubs paying players 3 times plus what we will ever do is laughable

 

[MARKakaJIM]

You were accusing me of being a WUM whatever that is on page 1, seems to be a defence mechanism after hearing things you don't agree with. If you cant debate points log off and come back when you can

WUM101

Aye, Sir Jack's dream of a team of Wolverhampton born players will never happen. I don't think there's anything wrong with what we do though, we can certainly feel proud that our academy produced a player like Dom Iorfa despite buying him from Gillingham or whoever it was at a young age.

I don't think there's anything wrong with it, it's just the way of the football world now but to try and peddle some view of Wolves being a pinnacle of morality in the football world, down trodden by the big boys at the top of the PL when really we're exercising exactly the same principles at a lower level seemed bizarre. It's just as harsh on a club like Newport or Gillingham or whoever having their best prospects nicked at 16-18 for relative pennies as it is when the same happens to a Wolves player at 20-21 and they've proved themselves at a higher level, the big clubs don't have to put in the hard miles early doors because they can use their financial might to get the player later on without having to wait for the development or gamble on them not fulfilling their potential.

 

[Tony Towner]

No they didn't and none of those clubs were in their 3rd year of premier league football

Norwich, Swansea less. Wigan (not Albion) the same. All 3 of whom stayed if that season

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/18/premier-league-finances-club-by-club

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

My view is even at the expense of being in the greed league it's better to stick to a wage structure that is self sustainable but expecting to beat or compete with clubs paying players 3 times plus what we will ever do is laughable

If we were in the Premier League I would want and expect us to be at least matching the likes of Crystal Palace. Who are not paying Cabaye £120k a week.

 

[BlueSkies]

Norwich, Swansea less. Wigan (not Albion) the same. All 3 of whom stayed if that season

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/apr/18/premier-league-finances-club-by-club

so according to the article you quoted we were joint 17 th in the wage league out of 20 after 3 years of being in the league with only two clubs in the entire division paying less. It's hardly conducive to success is it?

 

[Tony Towner]

so you expect us not to pay overly inflated wages other clubs do yet compete on a level playing field from a footballing viewpoint.. meanwhile in the real world. My view is even at the expense of being in the greed league it's better to stick to a wage structure that is self sustainable but expecting to beat or compete with clubs paying players 3 times plus what we will ever do is laughable

Please direct me to any post where I have mentioned anything close to this?
My point (as per posts 16&22) is that your notion that our players will all stay together because they are "local", forgoing the opportunity for higher wages or career development elsewhere while we build a challenge for promotion in some distant season in the future is quite frankly horseshit. Moreover you don't believe it either. You are An Angry Wolf and I claim by £10. Now please piss off back to both your chums on Molineux Way