The wolves Way

[ROVERT47]

It's been done to death and i accept all the arguments against my point of view but i'm comfortable with it.

 

[Penk Wolf]

And the key is what you want out of supporting your club - different people want different things.

 

[BlueSkies]

While wanting to see Wolves win every game they play i have to say that the most fun i've had at Molineux in recent years was the League 1 winning season.

I'm the same, although others may not agree Id like to see wolves win even at a lower level rather than flounder in the premiership. Obviously I don't want to see us relegated but if we could start the season again in league 1 and enjoy the success of becoming champions this season I think Id take it as it was the best season I can remember for years

 

[FrankMunro-371]

I'm glad for you mate, happy memories. I remember when we came up the leagues from Div 4 with Bully scoring 50 goals a season, which I'll never forget, but I wouldn't want to repeat the experience.

We need to always remember good times, and then move on.

And before our revival we had those three successive relegations, a crumbling stadium, and owners who did not want Molineux to be a football ground. Yes the revival was great, but we suffered in the years preceding it

 

[Dinowolf]

You're right there Frank. I spent good money on watching dire drivel every week for what seemed an eternity until Bully & Co. came along and changed everything.

I've been watching Wolves since the 1950's and there have been loads of ups and downs, including a time I thought my beloved club was going to disappear. I look back with dread on some of the downs and delight on some of the ups. I have heroes from each decade, from Billy Wright, Jimmy Mullen, Broadbent, Waggy, Munro, Kenny H, etc., and mainly Steve Bull.

Now I want new heroes who can win us promotion ( and cups ) and then on to the top tier and back into Europe, and players who play for their country, and a Club that attracts top players, which I won't get if we sit in the lower divisions.

 

[ROVERT47]

No one can seriously compare the first division of the 50s/60s/70s/80s with the Premier League in the 21st century.
There isn't a hope in hell that Wolves will ever again compete in the top 6 of English football unless there's a foreign football philanthropist somewhere that fancies Wolverhampton.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Where did Ipswich finish in 2001? Southampton were close to the top four for a time last season.

Football is more fluid than you'd think. What if City's owners get bored in a couple of years if they're crap in Europe again? What if Arsenal make the wrong appointment when Wenger leaves?

There has always been a hierarchy in football. Let's not pretend the 70s and 80s were any different, how many titles did Liverpool win.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Have been watching this thread over the last 5 pages - just shows that we all have different idea's of what we are looking at from football.

Whilst I try to enjoy games at whatever level we are at (& did in the Lg 1 season) still want the team playing at the highest level they can, employing the best players they can afford without completely blowing the finances. Having a real chance of cup success & some level of European travel.

Do we have a realistic chance of winning the Premier - not in the short term, but things change & what is certain is that if we are not in it then we have 0% chance.

The great young players we are apparently now bringing forward will not be with us for long if they show capability, but we stay static at this level. I do not want us to become a breeding ground for others.

 

[oldleemillgold]

The great young players we are apparently now bringing forward will not be with us for long if they show capability, but we stay static at this level. I do not want us to become a breeding ground for others.[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately, keeping our crop of fine young players is not dependant on our team's progress. Money will talk and if a moneybags club offers them a few more quid than we can afford, off they'll go. Google a certain 'Raheem Sterling'.

 

[Parkins left foot]

The great young players we are apparently now bringing forward will not be with us for long if they show capability, but we stay static at this level. I do not want us to become a breeding ground for others.

Unfortunately, keeping our crop of fine young players is not dependant on our team's progress. Money will talk and if a moneybags club offers them a few more quid than we can afford, off they'll go. Google a certain 'Raheem Sterling'.[/QUOTE]

Quite possibly, but we have even less chance if the team doesn't progress upwards from here.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Of course it's dependent on progress to a degree. Do you think Morgan Schneiderlin would have spent the last two years at Southampton if they were in the Championship?

Raheem Sterling is leaving because he cannot stand Brendan Rodgers, I'm with him on that one.

 

[Alan]

Liverpool regressed pretty severely last season and Sterling was basically told to fill in the gaps entirely on his own. I can't really blame him for this latest transfer saga.

 

[Law's Bus]

There has always been a hierarchy in football. Let's not pretend the 70s and 80s were any different, how many titles did Liverpool win.

The obvious response to that is just how many doubles were won back then? And how many different teams won the FA and League Cups compared to now? What about European qualifications?

 

[Tony Towner]

It's more about the ability to compete at the top level for me. Forest won the League in 1978 in their first season in Div 1, not because they threw money around but because of great management, now the aspiration when promoted is to finish 4th from bottom. In the 10 seasons from 1978 (Inc) 13 different teams finished in the Top 3, in the last 10 years it's 5. In the next 10 probably the same 5 again.

 

[oldleemillgold]

When we won League 1, it was a nice feeling, after the previous two farcical years, to win some matches and turn a corner. But there was also the feeling that yes, we should be beating the Gillinghams and Swindons of this world, which took a lump out of the pleasure of winning all those matches.
This must be how it feels to be a Manure or Chelski fan all the time except when they play each other. They don't know the real pleasure of football, 'cause they don't lose enough.

 

[So Long Architect]

When we won League 1, it was a nice feeling, after the previous two farcical years, to win some matches and turn a corner. But there was also the feeling that yes, we should be beating the Gillinghams and Swindons of this world, which took a lump out of the pleasure of winning all those matches.
This must be how it feels to be a Manure or Chelski fan all the time except when they play each other. They don't know the real pleasure of football, 'cause they don't lose enough.

My Chelsea-supporting brother and sister would tell you differently. They love it and never seem to get tired of it.

 

[oldleemillgold]

My Chelsea-supporting brother and sister would tell you differently. They love it and never seem to get tired of it.

Gets a bit tedious for the rest of us though. Hence the gradual flight of youth from supporting their local club, or that which their Dad supported, to supporting one of the 'big four'. This will gradually exacerbate the financial differentials between the clubs and, taken to it's logical conclusion, mean that eventually, the 'big four' will have no-one but each other to play. No-one worth playing anyway.

 

[BlueSkies]

Unfortunately whether you agree with the "wolves way" or not we have to accept its unlikely to sustain premier league football as players do follow the money rightly or wrongly. Even midland clubs such as the filth at the poorthorns, stoke , Leicester are paying wages which don't fit into our model of taking our club forward so we have to adjust our footballing expectations accordingly. Why should Kenny be expected to compete with these clubs when we can't acquire (rightly so IMV) the over extortionate wages these clubs offer which is why I expect us to be in the championship for the foreseeable future. Although we have talented strikers, there isn't sufficient depth in the squad to obtain promotion IMO so whilst we accept we can enjoy watching local talent come through and looking for more value regarding player transfers, the flip side of the coin is the footballing side will inevitably suffer. As already mentioned I'd sooner see wolves outside the premiership going about things the right way but hope if we aren't challenging for promotions, fans aren't screaming for Jackett to be sacked. With our obviously limitations from a footballing perspective a decent season would be similar to last season which amazed /surpassed all expectations allied with good football and a cup run as its about time we had one.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

The reason they can offer the wages is because they are in the top flight and on a goldmine. If promoted, our wage structure would also massively change again.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

You keep banging on about us not paying wages, there is no evidence of that at all.

I'll accept that a tiny minority prefer the Championship, it's flawed logic but each to their own. Peddling myths about our budget isn't really on though.