The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread.

[b3h]

Just don't bring up PTG ever again and I think you'll be alright.

It was only fair that other people had a chance to win it

 

[Alan]

Yes… yes, that’s exactly why I loaded up on Sunderland players, too…

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Which "weird" hills to die on?

That Kilman isn't actually as bad as he is perceived to be? (We just sold him for 40mill..)

And that we won't "easily" replace him.

Or that Doherty has been a pretty good player for us?

Those three opinions that arent really controversial to the majority of Wolves fans or non Wolves fans seem to have upset people on here for a long while or short while.

It was said that using half the cash we got, Kilman could be easily replaced. I stand by that. However, Jeff the overlord has decided in all his wisdom that the budget is less than that for all our recruitment. So now he becomes more challenging to replace. With a £20m budget for one player, I am still 100% certain you could do a lot better than captain wow.

The fact that West Ham were dumb enough to spend £40m on Kilman doesn't suddenly make him Franco Baresi.

 

[C.L.D]

Imo Jeff doesn't see any difference between 8th, 10th or 17th and that's what's driving our transfer strategy. Hobbs will always fall in line as long as he's able to keep playing with his South American scouting reports.

 

[C.L.D]

Which "weird" hills to die on?

That Kilman isn't actually as bad as he is perceived to be? (We just sold him for 40mill..)

And that we won't "easily" replace him.

Or that Doherty has been a pretty good player for us?

Those three opinions that arent really controversial to the majority of Wolves fans or non Wolves fans seem to have upset people on here for a long while or short while.

For the most part people aren't being being that weird.

Kilman is an average EPL CB, just not a standout one or remotely captaincy material. We sold him to rival with HG tax inflating his value. Anyone calling him Championship level would get rightly disagreed with imo.

We won't replace him because of Fosun, and *their* transfer strategy. It's a separate issue to Kilman's perceived worth and ability. I think the people on this forum can see that. Dawson's fee wa £4M? Anywhere between that and £20M could surely be used to get someone effective. Santi gamble cost £10M...

Doherty was exceptional briefly (well 2 seasons?) and an average to below-average backup before and since. His career arc is weird, but will go down as a servant of the club, regardless of what people think.

 

[Shotbybothsides]

I probably should be tbf

At least you get a warm welcome on the Mix, even if its run by a control freak.

Kilman will be missed I think, I fear that we are much weaker defensively at present. Hope that assessment is wrong though.

 

[Deano]

Nixon is linking Ait-Nouri with Palace

 

[Johnny75]

Nixon is linking Ait-Nouri with Palace

With a Sam Johnstone swap.

 

[big mean bunny]

At least you get a warm welcome on the Mix, even if its run by a control freak.

Kilman will be missed I think, I fear that we are much weaker defensively at present. Hope that assessment is wrong though.

Whilst pretty much the only bit of the game report I heard, I had the BBC score show on yesterday as was at my mum's, and whoever was doing the West Ham game described Kilman "As looking like a bargain at 40m."

 

[Tony Towner]

Hey just to change the heat in here…

Anyone remember the time I said we didn’t know for sure if Bully would have been good in the top flight?

In all seriousness, it would be a fair comment about someone with his record now. Back then the gap between the 2 leagues was smaller though with squads predominantly made up of British players. He'd have been good, the only question is his how good.

 

[AndyWolves]

I think enough time has passed and the game has changed so much it's almost impossible to answer from a modern perspective. A lot of what bully did, and received, would have been a free kick. Not to say he wouldn't have played the game in a different way though.

I always thought bully would have benefited from more advanced coaching.

 

[Tony Towner]

I think enough time has passed and the game has changed so much it's almost impossible to answer from a modern perspective. A lot of what bully did, and received, would have been a free kick. Not to say he wouldn't have played the game in a different way though.

I always thought bully would have benefited from more advanced coaching.

He wouldn't have been picked for the World Cup now, but he'd have left us at around that time in a comparable situation. The money and opportunity would have been too big for all concerned

 

[AndyWolves]

He wouldn't have been picked for the World Cup now, but he'd have left us at around that time in a comparable situation. The money and opportunity would have been too big for all concerned

IIRC, the closest he got was Coventry, and they offered him less than he was on here. No chance that would be in the situation these days.

A similar trajectory to Toney feels about where bully would have been.

 

[Jinky]

Whilst pretty much the only bit of the game report I heard, I had the BBC score show on yesterday as was at my mum's, and whoever was doing the West Ham game described Kilman "As looking like a bargain at 40m."

Played well yesterday and was part of a clean sheet & very good away win - but was directly at fault for a goal they conceded the week before when they lost. That’s what you get with a middle of the road premier league defender - some good weeks, some bad.

£40m is a good fee for that kind of expectation.

Fosun being prized pillocks and basically saying we can only spend half of that on upgrading the squad is a separate issue.

 

[Shotbybothsides]

I valued Kilman quite highly and thought £40m was about right. But I fear we will miss him more than many think, I know he is no captain material, but he was an excellent defender when we had backs against the wall for long spells. It is in those games that I now fear the worst.

I may well be totally wrong of course.

 

[Lupo]

He wouldn't have been picked for the World Cup now, but he'd have left us at around that time in a comparable situation. The money and opportunity would have been too big for all concerned

We would have sold him at his peak value, the days of holding on to top players for entire careers appear to be over for clubs like us

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Played well yesterday and was part of a clean sheet & very good away win - but was directly at fault for a goal they conceded the week before when they lost. That’s what you get with a middle of the road premier league defender - some good weeks, some bad.

£40m is a good fee for that kind of expectation.

Fosun being prized pillocks and basically saying we can only spend half of that on upgrading the squad is a separate issue.

They also highlighted his good bits (and to be fair there were quite a few) post match on MOTD but ignored at least two occasions where Palace went in clean through on goal with one pass and he was nowhere to be seen in anticipating the danger or recovering the situation.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

In all seriousness, it would be a fair comment about someone with his record now. Back then the gap between the 2 leagues was smaller though with squads predominantly made up of British players. He'd have been good, the only question is his how good.

For my money he was better than the likes of Smith/Cottee/Cascarino/Aldridge/Chapman who were regularly at the top of the goalscoring charts when he was at his 1989-1991(ish) absolute peak.

Not better than Lineker, Wright, Hughes, Shearer or Ferdinand and not comparable to Beardsley, Le Tissier, McClair or Sheringham in terms of style.

 

[thisisgil]

Because of the lack of literally one player

Not just that, I think Ait Nouri performs much better in a back 5.

 

[Tony Towner]

Not just that, I think Ait Nouri performs much better in a back 5.

I understand where you are coming from, but I'd want to see him play with Semedo in this formation first before drawing that conclusion. With Doherty he's always going to have to be more conservative.