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The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread.

EnglishBob said:
We're now well into that phase of the ownership cycle where Fosun want their money back and, if possible, flip the club for a profit.
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Well there is no chance of either of those things happening. I mean they'll get back what they originally handed Steve Morgan. Not what they've spent since.

We've been effectively for sale for at least two years. I'd have more takers if I put a broken garden chair on Gumtree.
 
I’ve speculated before whether Fosun are trying to hang in the PL as long as possible whilst spending the bare minimum but accepting that relegation is inevitable, at which point they sell all remaining players worth more than a few bob and that way recoup their investment without having to worry about selling the club. Obviously they’d get something for it but selling RAN, Cunha, Gomes and a few others would recoup a good proportion of their £250m.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Well there is no chance of either of those things happening. I mean they'll get back what they originally handed Steve Morgan. Not what they've spent since.

We've been effectively for sale for at least two years. I'd have more takers if I put a broken garden chair on Gumtree.
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Yeah. Probably still a few oligarchs, sheikhs, or "consortiums" out there fancying themselves as the owner of a Premier League club. Just not one in Wolverhampton.
 
Wilf Wolf said:
I’ve speculated before whether Fosun are trying to hang in the PL as long as possible whilst spending the bare minimum but accepting that relegation is inevitable, at which point they sell all remaining players worth more than a few bob and that way recoup their investment without having to worry about selling the club. Obviously they’d get something for it but selling RAN, Cunha, Gomes and a few others would recoup a good proportion of their £250m.
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Championship clubs without investment / players to sell lose money though and nobody is going to buy one that's been asset stripped
 
I think if we were in the national league north under Fosun you’d still find supporters of them.
Basically the attitude I’m seeing is they’ve put so much in and taken little out and are hamstrung by PSR.
Firstly they’re not, secondly don’t release BS statements telling us it’ll be rosey gardens in 12 months.
Thirdly their own fuck ups have led to this situation. ie having crap football people in charge of football decisions.
 
Tony Towner said:
Championship clubs without investment / players to sell lose money though and nobody is going to buy one that's been asset stripped
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Would Fosun care - just cut investment and slide down the leagues taking parachute payments as they go? If they’ve got their investment back plus some and only view it as a business why would they care?
 
I will stand by my view that Fosun pulled the bridge up when their Government fully withdrew their support of football and Chinese companies spending money outside of their country.

I don't think they want to sell us off but do want a set up where they own a chunk but someone else does the hard work.

Would be nice though if they could bin Shi and replace him with someone with an ounce of football business knowledge.
 
Wilf Wolf said:
I’ve speculated before whether Fosun are trying to hang in the PL as long as possible whilst spending the bare minimum but accepting that relegation is inevitable, at which point they sell all remaining players worth more than a few bob and that way recoup their investment without having to worry about selling the club. Obviously they’d get something for it but selling RAN, Cunha, Gomes and a few others would recoup a good proportion of their £250m.
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See I don't think it's even this. They have put too much into their other branding avenues and whatnot to just suddenly not have the team or the link between all that, also when relegation did look a concern suddenly they found signings. I do think it's just some sort of misguided idea of being different to the other teams.
 
big mean bunny said:
See I don't think it's even this. They have put too much into their other branding avenues and whatnot to just suddenly not have the team or the link between all that, also when relegation did look a concern suddenly they found signings. I do think it's just some sort of misguided idea of being different to the other teams.
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I think you’re almost certainly correct. As I said I was simply speculating but if they do want to sell and can’t find a buyer at the price they want it could be an alternative approach.
 
Wilf Wolf said:
Would Fosun care - just cut investment and slide down the leagues taking parachute payments as they go? If they’ve got their investment back plus some and only view it as a business why would they care?
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They can't take money out like that and it wouldn't cover what they're 'owed' anyway.
 
Inwant to.know whatbthe Supporters trust think and what questions they are asking.

This is now complete fucking Bullshit
 
Wilf Wolf said:
Surely owners can take dividends- isn’t that exactly what the Glazers have been doing for years?
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Dividends can only be taken from companies which make a profit. It's illegal otherwise, as I understand it (I'm not saying we aren't making a profit, we could absolutely pay dividends if the board decided to)

There are other ways though, high interest loans as an example
 
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AndyWolves said:
Dividends can only be taken from companies which make a profit. It's illegal otherwise, as I understand it

There are other ways though, high interest loans as an example
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Profit over what period?
 
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