The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread.

[big mean bunny]

Whilst just raw stats. A scan of Pro Football reference advanced keeper stats seems to indicate what I feel I see with him.

-6 expect goals (Henderson was -1.6), and then Henderson leads Johnstone in most other stats in the keepers favour, better passing accuracy, higher starting position, less likely to go long. Johnstones long accuracy is nearly 10 points higher than either Sa or Henderson(who felt like a good 3rd comparison) but then long distance passing isn't what anyone is claiming we need him for.

Sa is +8.9 for last year. Which regardless of what people will bring up, is still note worthy even with being at fault for some goals. Could be team specific but he is well above either the Palace keepers on crosses claimed.

 

[Tony Towner]

Whilst just raw stats. A scan of Pro Football reference advanced keeper stats seems to indicate what I feel I see with him.

-6 expect goals (Henderson was -1.6), and then Henderson leads Johnstone in most other stats in the keepers favour, better passing accuracy, higher starting position, less likely to go long. Johnstones long accuracy is nearly 10 points higher than either Sa or Henderson(who felt like a good 3rd comparison) but then long distance passing isn't what anyone is claiming we need him for.

Sa is +8.9 for last year. Which regardless of what people will bring up, is still note worthy even with being at fault for some goals. Could be team specific but he is well above either the Palace keepers on crosses claimed.

What distance is a long ball defined by, because one of Sa's biggest weakness are clipped 30 yard passes to one of the full backs which sails over their heads?

 

[MARKakaJIM]

Sa's biggest problem with the ball at his feet is decision making rather than technique (although he's really bad at getting himself into the right positions to deal with the ball played across him towards his left side) more often than not - he's obviously being asked to play out short whenever possible and because it doesn't come naturally to him it's slow and awkward. Other teams latch onto it at times and then they'll press him more which makes it even more apparent - as did the fans on Sunday when they got all twitchy any time a defender looked to play it back to him.

Whenever I've seen Johnstone he looks like a clunky old school keeper - not going to give away many complete howlers but won't make many saves you wouldn't expect him to either. Don't think he'll offer much improvement in distribution - less dallying on the ball perhaps but I expect that'll just be replaced by hoofing it long whenever there's the slightest hint of not being able to take a touch and set himself properly.

 

[Dire Wolf]

If we sell Gomes for £50m+ then he's delivered on his job's number 1, arguably only, kpi. Factor Kilman in, which he certainly is slow to take credit for then he'll be a hero to his employer

Employee of the month?

 

[Kenny]

Employee of the month?

Not beating Jeff to that..EVER

 

[big mean bunny]

What distance is a long ball defined by, because one of Sa's biggest weakness are clipped 30 yard passes to one of the full backs which sails over their heads?

Less than 40 yards, as the site I used use Opta. Sa is poor in the area you mention and I don't particularly need stats to find that. However, if the equation is Sa for Johnstone then my huge worry is that's more than a marginal downgrade. Especially when what people are telling me is the strength of Johnstone, isn't particularly a strength. There is lots of footage and data to back up why them signing a keeper was one of the smartest things they could do to improve.

Feel bad I was ever casting doubt on Ramsdale now, that was mostly to do with price and lack of overall funding.

 

[Loki]

I know Sa isn`t great, but for pity`s sake, if you`re going to sell your goalkeeper at least aim to replace him with one that is better than the one you`re selling. This is getting ridiculous.

 

[Kenny]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828499949102702952

 

[Keef]

I still hold out hope for Hobbs as he’s essentially been told to shop at Poundland.

And he’s been told to only bid this amount because we haven’t the budget

 

[Dire Wolf]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828499949102702952

The rest of the PL are now quaking in their boots.

 

[Kenny]

The rest of the PL are now quaking in their boots.

Just you wait 5 years and this will come back to bite you when our Sporting Director, Matt Doherty, sells him for £60m to Wrexham.

 

[wanderer89]

Just you wait 5 years and this will come back to bite you when our Sporting Director, Matt Doherty, sells him for £60m to Wrexham.

That's gonna give me the night sweats.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Just you wait 5 years and this will come back to bite you when our Sporting Director, Matt Doherty, sells him for £60m to Wrexham.

I want this to happen, just to be witness to Deutsch's reaction.

 

[Kenny]

Johnstone on the bench for Palace tonight.

 

[The Bear]

"Wolves have acted on their interest by sending an offer of £250,000 plus add-ons for Sutherland. St Mirren are said to have immediately rebuffed Wanderers’ approach as they hope to keep hold of one of their highest rated prospects."


Fucking £250k!! We're such miserly cunts.


"Although predominantly a wide midfielder, Sutherland can also play in either full-back position, so he could offer great versatility for any potential suitor. The 18-year-old has made just four senior appearances for St Mirren but recently enjoyed a successful loan at Scottish League One side Alloa Athletic.

Sutherland, gaining his first regular experience of senior competitive action, scored two goals and made six assists in 18 matches for Alloa. The teenager will be looking to further his progression this season."


Another one for the LB list....

 

[The Bear]

Fucking hell. He looks like the sort of player we'd be sending out on loan to L1/L2 from our development squad.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1828513633644560525

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Whilst Sa can be incredibly frustrating at times overall he’s not the weakest link in the team. Replacing him with Johnstone makes no sense other than it frees up a homegrown spot, hardly a reason to spend £10m on a downgrade.

 

[Kenny]

Fucking hell. He looks like the sort of player we'd be sending out on loan to L1/L2 from our development squad

What do you think we are going to do with a 300k punt on a kid from Scotland?

He is 100% into the Under 21 group

 

[big mean bunny]

Was going to say this isn't really a Wolves signing is it. Profile reads like when they signed Kilman or someone else you expect to potentially never see. It seems like dev team signing.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

"Wolves have acted on their interest by sending an offer of £250,000 plus add-ons for Sutherland. St Mirren are said to have immediately rebuffed Wanderers’ approach as they hope to keep hold of one of their highest rated prospects."


Fucking £250k!! We're such miserly cunts.


"Although predominantly a wide midfielder, Sutherland can also play in either full-back position, so he could offer great versatility for any potential suitor. The 18-year-old has made just four senior appearances for St Mirren but recently enjoyed a successful loan at Scottish League One side Alloa Athletic.

Sutherland, gaining his first regular experience of senior competitive action, scored two goals and made six assists in 18 matches for Alloa. The teenager will be looking to further his progression this season."


Another one for the LB list....

Surely if you’ve seen something in him that makes you think he could make it in the PL you back your judgement to more than £250,000.