The Summer 2024 Transfer Thread.

[Johnny75]

£15m and yes, although I'd say not better enough. He's also played left (and right) back so Hobbs can add him to his list of players who won't be very good, but can play there.

I'd disagree with that, I don't think he's any better than Toti but he's a quicker than Dawson and Bueno just not a better footballer.

I think the rumoured fee is £10m.

I don't see the point in signing crap for the sake of it.

 

[White Wolf]

Feel like I read more about Johnny most days on here than I do Wolves at this point!

I don't like Ramsdale very much, not keen on his attitude and seems to regularly let in soft goals he should be doing better on. Considering his size his reach isn't that good. Would rather keep Sa. I'm not sure there was ever a serious argument for him to be England's no.1, Pickford is much better. It's not a big deal for me personally but the West Brom links would mean fans don't take to him if he makes mistakes.

I know Burnley played some quite suicidal tactics last year but even without them O'Shea seemed quite poor quality also?

Both links leave me feeling like this is going to be another window where we mostly sign filler and crap.

 

[Alan]

Am I missing something with Ramsdale? Yeah okay he’s a cock but Sá cropped his hound’s ears so he ain’t all that.

In football terms I remember Ramsdale being largely fantastic for Arsenal? Which stuck out to me because I remembered him getting slated when he moved there.

 

[Leigh Griffiths' Hairline]

Ramsdale would be a significant upgrade on Sa.

 

[1986]

The clear problem that people have re a new centre back is that fans were hoping for an experienced head to go alongside Yerson and guide him through the season , to enable him to fulfil the potential he clearly has - and even if Yerson wasn't there , they wanted an experienced player anyway - a younger Dawson if you will .
O' Shea isn't that experienced head , and his level is what it is , nothing special and no better than either Bueno or Toti . Why therefore just add another player of modest ability even if the heart is willing ?

Mention of Dawson - people seem to be writing him off as just a bench player right now , or is it because they believe that O'Neil wants to play a 4 at the back and the thinking is that he does not have the pace for that ?
A fit Dawson is still a player not to be ignored I would suggest .

 

[C.L.D]

A fit Dawson was our best CB last season, we just haven't seen that in 2024.

His signing should be a reminder that good players don't have to be overbuys or fit a certain age bracket.

 

[1986]

A fit Dawson was our best CB last season, we just haven't seen that in 2024.

His signing should be a reminder that good players don't have to be overbuys or fit a certain age bracket.

When he was signed , and Mario , people were not overly excited at the time - however , both had PL experience and that has counted for a lot I would suggest .
Look at how long it takes for players with no PL experience to settle into a team .

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I’d be delighted if we signed Ramsdale. I’m not bothered how much he loves Albion or if he can act a bit of a cock sometimes, he’d be an upgrade in a position we need to improve.

We’d never pay what Arsenal would want for him though.

If it’s true that we still have hardly any transfer budget then Ramsdale and Jota on loan and a budget CB are probably the best we could hope for, however unlikely the first two options are.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

We only have hardly any budget through conscious choice. Which is going to bite us on the arse as the other 19 clubs are making the opposite choice.

 

[1986]

We only have hardly any budget through conscious choice. Which is going to bite us on the arse as the other 19 clubs are making the opposite choice.

Yes , but you can't just what Forest and Chelsea are at , keep buying and buying with no idea how to fit them all in .

I have no issue with us buying a small number of players as long as our squad is big enough to withstand injuries over the course of a season . Last weekend our bench was fine , and there are three others to come into that ( Semedo , Traore and Lima ) .

Ramsdale in and Sa out is a straight swap . I won't say no to that , but our squad would not increase in size - but I think overall he is an improvement .
O' Shea adds nothing extra to the naked eye and Bueno would go out on loan then one assumes - so , why do it then ?

We need one more player I would suggest , that would make a significant difference ( CB , Forward , Winger ) . What I have seen to date in rumours do not tick that box .

 

[C.L.D]

Our squad planning sucks. Looks at the backline.

• Ambivalent about Sa, but clearly there's room for improvement at keeper, rumours suggest the same.
• Still haven't replaced Kilman at CB with a first eleven calibre player. Too many unknowns currently.
• No proper backup for RAN after sending Bueno on loan, having to use other players to cover is not ideal.
• Even on opposite flank there's been no future planning, Semedo isn't going to be here forever, they're seemingpy relying on Docherty to be though...

No squad list is ever perfect but ours just seems so haphazardly assembled, and has for a long time.

 

[Tredman]

Our squad planning sucks. Looks at the backline.

• Ambivalent about Sa, but clearly there's room for improvement at keeper, rumours suggest the same.
• Still haven't replaced Kilman at CB with a first eleven calibre player. Too many unknowns currently.
• No proper backup for RAN after sending Bueno on loan, having to use other players to cover is not ideal.
• Even on opposite flank there's been no future planning, Semedo isn't going to be here forever, they're seemingpy relying on Docherty to be though...

No squad list is ever perfect but ours just seems so haphazardly assembled, and has for a long time.

Lima is the Semedo replacement.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Yes , but you can't just what Forest and Chelsea are at , keep buying and buying with no idea how to fit them all in .

I have no issue with us buying a small number of players as long as our squad is big enough to withstand injuries over the course of a season . Last weekend our bench was fine , and there are three others to come into that ( Semedo , Traore and Lima ) .

Ramsdale in and Sa out is a straight swap . I won't say no to that , but our squad would not increase in size - but I think overall he is an improvement .
O' Shea adds nothing extra to the naked eye and Bueno would go out on loan then one assumes - so , why do it then ?

We need one more player I would suggest , that would make a significant difference ( CB , Forward , Winger ) . What I have seen to date in rumours do not tick that box .

I haven't suggested we go down the Chelsea route. I am suggesting there are significant holes in an already small squad, and twenty million isn't going to cut the mustard.

 

[1986]

We had 20 players in the squad last Saturday - all players with senior experience , add 3 more that were left out ( Lima , Semedo and Traore ) , brings it to 23 . Throw in Fabio and Sasa - as both are still being paid as senior players - that makes 25 .

Lets assumes Fabio leaves and is not replaced . Let's assume that Sasa does not play this season and will not be replaced ( even if he were to be advised to retire by surgeons ) .

That leaves 23 - that's fine , and I wouldn't want it to get any lower than that , i.e. if we sell one of those , then we must replace that player .
There are clubs with a good few more than that , and I don't really see the need for it .

 

[Tony Towner]

Yes , but you can't just what Forest and Chelsea are at , keep buying and buying with no idea how to fit them all in .

As suggested by absolutely nobody

 

[1986]

I haven't suggested we go down the Chelsea route. I am suggesting there are significant holes in an already small squad, and twenty million isn't going to cut the mustard.

Chelsea is not a good example - I grant you that , but Forest would be . We have 25 senior players - actually forgot Tom King - that's 26 . I don't think there is a whole lot wrong with the number , it's the quality in certain areas that is an issue .

 

[1986]

As suggested by absolutely nobody

Lots of posters here describe our squad as too small , I'm not sure I agree in terms of numbers . We just need more quality , but quality is hard found when you offer them our terms and conditions .

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Lots of posters here describe our squad as too small , I'm not sure I agree in terms of numbers . We just need more quality , but quality is hard found when you offer them our terms and conditions .

It’s very unbalanced. We don’t need POD, Guedes and Chiquinho but we do need a LB. Probably ok for numbers of CHs but quality definitely lacking. Cover for CF wouldn’t go amiss either.

 

[Tony Towner]

Lots of posters here describe our squad as too small , I'm not sure I agree in terms of numbers . We just need more quality , but quality is hard found when you offer them our terms and conditions .

I don't think they do, they describe it as lacking in quality / not able to play the way the manager wants / don't want to be here.
Bentley - not fit for purpose
King - fine for getting the balls out of the bag at training, but not a first team option
Bueno - can't play a high line
Dawson - as above
Lima - a kid, here to just learn this season
Guedes- doesn't want to be here and will kick off if he stays
Podence - likely as above

That's 7 of your 26 that aren't really options, before I touch on my opinion of the quality of 3 or 4 of the others.

 

[1986]

It’s very unbalanced. We don’t need POD, Guedes and Chiquinho but we do need a LB. Probably ok for numbers of CHs but quality definitely lacking. Cover for CF wouldn’t go amiss either.

That's fair on the lack of balance and LB situation . Proper cover for Larson is another - as in a player who can be a regular goal scorer and play that central role .

I am assuming that loans will be arranged for the likes of Hodge , Cundle , Lonwijk , Campbell and a few more .