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The Summer 2018 Transfer Thread

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Deutsch Wolf said:
Not really, I read through that thread on KUMB, once you get to the end of the season and they're not just reacting to a one off decent performance (he had two or three) then they're pretty much all saying he doesn't do enough bar the odd nice set piece here and there, he's non-existent defensively and not worth the money. Fair assessment really.
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He's not an upgrade on Saiss then?

I guess the question is how much higher can Nuno raise his bar?

(if of course any of the rumours are remotely true.)
 
Elephant Pyjamas said:
He's not an upgrade on Saiss then?

I guess the question is how much higher can Nuno raise his bar?

(if of course any of the rumours are remotely true.)
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He is absolutely, categorically not suitable for playing in a midfield two alongside Neves. I wouldn't even consider him in the same bracket as Saiss, it's no more a comparison than asking "who's better, Modric or Kanté".
 
Johnny75 said:
Nobody said your opinion wasn't relevant but painting it as fact needs credibility. Something you've still not managed to achieve by connecting a percentage of possession to a player and us winning the league. If you honestly think a percentage of possession relates to winning the league then I think stats may not be for you.

Then to top that we don't cross the ball anyway so having all that possession down the right means fuck all anyway. It is fairly obvious Doherty needs to be upgraded on and nobody (not even you) has said otherwise. So why are you getting all bent out of shape over a player you think needs upgrading anyway?
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I've said we are a team that doesn't cross the ball a lot, you asked me to back that up. The was one stat that said we average 16 a game, and I then posted the above with the crosses per game our our attacking players, they total 4ish per game. (Doherty with almost 1 cross per 2 games)

So yes i think me saying we don't cross the ball a lot, and then posted facts that back that up does validate my opinion.

Having possession down the right has nothing to do with crossing, not sure how you have drawn that bizarre conclusion. It simply shows that given Doherty played on the right all season, and that side was the main focus of our play, he must have had a good season, certainly better than "alright", better than having a "shit touch", and better than "not being able to cross" else we wouldn't have finished as high as we did.

I'm not sure how much evidence i have to provide for you to continue to prove that, but i shouldn't really be too surprised as i have had similar arguments earlier in the season with regards to both Bonatini and Miranda, where you thought they were amazing and i was a little more balanced. So we clearly have far differing opinions.

Mine are right though. :coffee1:
 
47% on the right because Doherty took ten minutes to control each pass. :D
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
He is absolutely, categorically not suitable for playing in a midfield two alongside Neves. I wouldn't even consider him in the same bracket as Saiss, it's no more a comparison than asking "who's better, Modric or Kanté".
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Well on that basis i doubt we are in for him.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Hard work with you today Jinks.

Yes, I've seen him play for two club teams and one international team, he looks shit to me, I have no idea what he's supposed to be. Feel free to disagree with that assessment from the legions of Joao Mario games you have watched.

Spurs buy shit players too, they still own Vincent Janssen and Moussa Sissoko.
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:icon_lol:

I'm only yanking your chain, sexy. I don't think much of Mario either. Just looks like an average player who doesn't seem to specialise in... well, anything, really. I'm happy to be proven wrong if we sign him.
 
White Wolf said:
Do they? Not from what I've seen and read, a lot hated him. Extremely inconsistent, scores the odd good goal after smashing half a dozens shots in row Z and isn't all that creatively, just neat and tidy but wants too much time on the ball.
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I just read the first 2 or 3 pages of KUMB thread about him, and the last one. The first few pages very positive, the latter less positive but a few still saying they should sign him.
 
Elephant Pyjamas said:
I've said we are a team that doesn't cross the ball a lot, you asked me to back that up. The was one stat that said we average 16 a game, and I then posted the above with the crosses per game our our attacking players, they total 4ish per game. (Doherty with almost 1 cross per 2 games)

So yes i think me saying we don't cross the ball a lot, and then posted facts that back that up does validate my opinion.

Having possession down the right has nothing to do with crossing, not sure how you have drawn that bizarre conclusion. It simply shows that given Doherty played on the right all season, and that side was the main focus of our play, he must have had a good season, certainly better than "alright", better than having a "shit touch", and better than "not being able to cross" else we wouldn't have finished as high as we did.

I'm not sure how much evidence i have to provide for you to continue to prove that, but i shouldn't really be too surprised as i have had similar arguments earlier in the season with regards to both Bonatini and Miranda, where you thought they were amazing and i was a little more balanced. So we clearly have far differing opinions.

Mine are right though. :coffee1:
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We clearly have different opinions and I have no idea how the drivel above has been arrived at. The fact you forget Cav and Costa operate in the inside right position is downright bizarre and I can safely say stats really aren't for you. But y'know carry on and all that.

Fair play for sticking to your guns on a player that you want to replace though. Legend in your own head.
 
Johnny75 said:
We clearly have different opinions and I have no idea how the drivel above has been arrived at. The fact you forget Cav and Costa operate in the inside right position is downright bizarre and I can safely say stats really aren't for you. But y'know carry on and all that.

Fair play for sticking to your guns on a player that you want to replace though. Legend in your own head.
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Which part is "drivel" then?

The part where i say Wolves don't cross the ball a lot (they don't)

The part where i say Doc's crossing is irrelevant as he doesn't cross the ball a lot (he doesn't, just over once every 2 games)

The part where in a Championship winning team the majority of our play came down the right hand side (it does),

You asked for facts, i gave you facts, you then dismiss those facts and then talk to me as if i'm an idiot.

I'll let you have the last word though mate, there is no point offering you any more evidence to prove my point, you are one of those is too entrenched to back down.
 
The part where you miss Cav and Costa out as playing on the right hand side.

That and I have o clue what you are saying about Doherty, other than you'd like to replace him and he must've played well because our attacking possession is 40-odd percent in a section of the pitch he played in (for some reason you seem to think only he played out there).

No relevance to how many goals came from that side, who scored them, how relevant they were in the game and at what point and what Doherty actually contributed to those goals.

It would be fair to say that most people on here (and from my experience in the stadium) think that Doc had a good season for him and that he was a much improved player under Nuno. It would also be fair to say there were better players in the Championship at RB/ RWB and that we should be looking to upgrade on him.

I still have no idea why you have this bee in your bonnet about a player you want to replace, other than to prove to somebody on the internet you are in someway right, which in your opinion you are anyway.

We'll likely never agree so this is all pointless.
 
Can I get the last twenty minutes of my life back please, doc is utter rubbish, we need an upgrade there abs another cb cm lwb and poss a striker
 
4 page argument about something a blind man on a galloping horse can see, grrrrrrreat.
 
Let's be honest, Doc has improved massively. But then again, it was an extremely low starting point to improve from.

He was absolute shite for about 5 seasons, and miraculously survived being culled by different managers.

Nuno came in and got the best out of Doc and credit where it's due, he had a very good season last season, but 1 good season out of 7 does not make him exempt from criticism. If we honestly have aspirations of stayin in the PL long term, we need an upgrade on him.
 
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