The Summer 2018 Transfer Thread

[Deutsch Wolf]

Any takers for Cabaye? On a free and Palace increasingly sounding like they're resigned to him going.

 

[Trips]

I like Cabaye, still got a touch of class about him and would be a good addition for a couple of seasons

 

[machin05]

Yeah, definitely would have Cabaye here.

 

[Boozad]

I don't think he's anywhere near the levels he was at for Newcastle, I'd pass.

 

[Nando]

Not convinced he'd work in our system nowadays and he's on absolutely massive money at Palace. Tremendous player at his peak though.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

He's tougher than he looks. I don't see why Neves/Cabaye wouldn't work. You're looking at pure class there.

He'll probably go to Marseille or something but I would like someone of that calibre here, it's a bit different to signing Zubar, Maierhofer, Surman and Halford last time we went up.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If he was available I would hope we would register an interest. I think the whole market is going to be dependent upon what type of a splash we make with early signings.

 

[NoodleWolf]

I'd be really happy with Cabaye!

 

[Alan]

I like Cabaye as a player but I can't see him and Neves working together. Unless Cabaye got better/more willing to tackle while I wasn't looking.

 

[arklowolf]

Any takers for Cabaye? On a free and Palace increasingly sounding like they're resigned to him going.

No thanks. Lots of ability. Bad attitude when the going gets tough. Helped Newcastle get relegated.

 

[Jinky]

Think Cabaye’s best days are behind him. I’d love to see us make an offer for Lanzini. He’s class, but probably more of a number 10 and we don’t really play with one of them.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

No thanks. Lots of ability. Bad attitude when the going gets tough. Helped Newcastle get relegated.

Done alright with Palace with their start of P7 W0 D0 L7 F0.

And massive credit to Roy for that by the way, a very underrated and harshly treated man.

 

[YoungWolf]

Roy has done a very good job, he's a good Premier league manager tbf. By all accounts though he's not a very nice man.

 

[Alan]

He looks like a smooshed turkey.

 

[Tom Hark]

I like Cabaye, but he's joint founder of a USL club, San Diego 1904. He might decide to play there in 2019 if he leaves Palace, in which case he'd be a short-term prospect at best.

 

[t3ch]

This isn't aimed at you especially (and thanks for engaging), but it's statements like that in bold that I just don't get. The implication as I see it is that we would want him at (say) £20m but not at £35m, but if he's not good enough for the team at £35m then why does he become good enough at £20m? Because we can sell him if he proves to be a failure without losing too much money? Because we can buy two of him (so to speak)? That's not much of a business plan either, if that's the case, because we'll have just shipped a number of goals we shouldn't have and probably potentially lost a damn sight more than £15m in the process. If two players are available at the same price then there's obviously a discussion to be had about which would offer the better value, but simply to say 'I wouldn't want him at that price' seems illogical to me.

I clarified this with my post before the one you quoted. A player can be good enough, and also not worth the price, given finite resources. You can get a 'good enough' player in one position while dampening your ability to go after another. If Fosun's budget for next year is $300m, by all means, make it rain. But I'm going to venture a guess that that's unrealistic.

I completely understand what you're saying though. I've already said that I would be happy with Butland in general, but I would hope that we could get him at a less-high price versus bidding at amounts which make other teams say "well, I guess we can't turn THAT down"

 

[AlexG]

It's always difficult to second-guess what's coming our way in terms of incoming transfers. Let's face it, Wolves have not had a good experience in terms of player purchases when we've been promoted to the Premier League. Twice. We all want this to be "third time lucky", but it's very difficult not to be haunted by what has gone before.

That's why we're very cautious about every rumour we hear. And act in disbelief at some of the transfer prices being quoted. However, that's the market these days. It's difficult to comprehend £35 million for Jack Butland, until you remember the £30 million Everton paid for Jordan Pickford. One or other of these is likely to be England's first choice keeper at the World Cup this summer, and the other one likely as not the back-up. Wolves with the England first or second choice keeper between the posts? That's what we'd be buying - that sort of label.

Two things I consider are important in all this. Firstly, we will be in the market for players of England international stature. Just like this season, there's English/Irish/Scottish players making the first team every week, and you can guarantee that next season will be the same, with home-grown upgrades right down the spine of the team. High wages, high transfer fees - we all know that you have to pay far more for English players in particular, as the club has to ensure it satisfies all those 'home grown' requirements in terms of the players in the squad.

The second factor is the ambition the club now has. Premier League is just the first stepping stone. The vision is for Wolves to become a WORLDWIDE brand. That will mean having players with a worldwide reputation. Ones which will sell shedloads of replica shirts. The kinds of signings that will get people talking worldwide.

Bringing in the type of players who will blend in within the dressing room, who won't sulk that someone else is getting paid more than them, or playing more games when they might not deserve to, and appreciate that each individual player brand works towards the success of the club brand.

Which is all a roundabout way of saying I wouldn't be at all surprised at the magnitude of some of the signings we will make in the next few weeks. Jack Wilshere is well within our reach. He's a known brand, sure, with some aspects of that not helpful (the injury record for instance). Can he play our system? He's a professional, he'll work at it. Would he come to Wolves? Tell him that Wolves have the level of ambition which Manchester City had a few years ago, maybe even more so. That's the sort of thing any player wants to hear about his next prospective employer. And they'll be known around the world. Selling lots of shirts.

Whether that means we bag the likes of a Gareth Bale or a Cristiano Ronaldo, and how that works with the financial regulations, well, who knows for sure? If you look at our purchases last season, we had big signings, we had value for money signings, and were also picking up players on frees. I expect the same sort of activity this year, except with a lot more zeros on the end of the higher-end transfer fees... this third time around, I believe we are going to find out that nothing is impossible.

 

[WolfmanOz]

It's always difficult to second-guess what's coming our way in terms of incoming transfers. Let's face it, Wolves have not had a good experience in terms of player purchases when we've been promoted to the Premier League. Twice. We all want this to be "third time lucky", but it's very difficult not to be haunted by what has gone before.

That's why we're very cautious about every rumour we hear. And act in disbelief at some of the transfer prices being quoted. However, that's the market these days. It's difficult to comprehend £35 million for Jack Butland, until you remember the £30 million Everton paid for Jordan Pickford. One or other of these is likely to be England's first choice keeper at the World Cup this summer, and the other one likely as not the back-up. Wolves with the England first or second choice keeper between the posts? That's what we'd be buying - that sort of label.

Two things I consider are important in all this. Firstly, we will be in the market for players of England international stature. Just like this season, there's English/Irish/Scottish players making the first team every week, and you can guarantee that next season will be the same, with home-grown upgrades right down the spine of the team. High wages, high transfer fees - we all know that you have to pay far more for English players in particular, as the club has to ensure it satisfies all those 'home grown' requirements in terms of the players in the squad.

The second factor is the ambition the club now has. Premier League is just the first stepping stone. The vision is for Wolves to become a WORLDWIDE brand. That will mean having players with a worldwide reputation. Ones which will sell shedloads of replica shirts. The kinds of signings that will get people talking worldwide.

Bringing in the type of players who will blend in within the dressing room, who won't sulk that someone else is getting paid more than them, or playing more games when they might not deserve to, and appreciate that each individual player brand works towards the success of the club brand.

Which is all a roundabout way of saying I wouldn't be at all surprised at the magnitude of some of the signings we will make in the next few weeks. Jack Wilshere is well within our reach. He's a known brand, sure, with some aspects of that not helpful (the injury record for instance). Can he play our system? He's a professional, he'll work at it. Would he come to Wolves? Tell him that Wolves have the level of ambition which Manchester City had a few years ago, maybe even more so. That's the sort of thing any player wants to hear about his next prospective employer. And they'll be known around the world. Selling lots of shirts.

Whether that means we bag the likes of a Gareth Bale or a Cristiano Ronaldo, and how that works with the financial regulations, well, who knows for sure? If you look at our purchases last season, we had big signings, we had value for money signings, and were also picking up players on frees. I expect the same sort of activity this year, except with a lot more zeros on the end of the higher-end transfer fees... this third time around, I believe we are going to find out that nothing is impossible.

Well said ! I couldn't agree more.

 

[Freddeno]

I would like Abdoulaye Doucoure from Watford next to Neves..

 

[b3h]

I'd take that