The Road To Germany 2024

[Trips]

Pickford, Ramsdale, Butland

Walker, Trippier, Shaw, Maguire, Stones, Guehi, Branthwaite

Rice, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold, Mainoo, Maddison, Jones, Eze

Kane, Watkins, Foden, Saka, Gordon, Palmer,

To follow on, my XI would be

Pickford

Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw

TAA, Rice, Bellingham

Saka, Kane, Foden

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's always been there, and it's nearly always tired tropes that don't remotely stack up.

It has, just seems to be a lot more aggressive of late.

 

[Tony Towner]

It has, just seems to be a lot more aggressive of late.

Some of it he brings on himself, picking players who can't get a game for their club sides, going to watch Henderson in his first game at Ajax, cautious approach in games with 2 holding midfielders, getting outcoached in big moments. The good outweighs the bad though

 

[Dire Wolf]

If you look at the players we had available in the 2000s and how badly we underachieved, Southgate has achieved more with less than almost all prior England managers. We aren't always great to watch, and we can be too pragmatic in style, but he gets results. Who out of today's team would undeniably get in a team that could field Rio Ferdinand, Ashley Cole, Gary Neville, David Beckham, Paul Scholes, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen etc etc (Im sure I've forgotten others)?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Seaman ahead of little T rex too

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I hardly watch any non-Wolves football but I'll have a go anyway...

Pickford, Pope, Ramsdale
Walker, Trippier, Shaw, Stones, Maguire, Guehi, James, Colwill
Rice, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold, Barkley, Jones
Foden, Saka, Palmer, Bowen, Maddison
Kane, Watkins

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Seaman ahead of little T rex too

Pickford is miles better than Seaman was post-France 98

 

[Tony Towner]

They didn't quite overlap but if you said Sven's best team across his time was something like:
James/Seaman
Neville Ferdinand Terry/Campbell Cole
Beckham Gerrard/Scholes/Lampard Cole
Owen Rooney

I'd have Pickford for James/ that version of Seaman, Walker for Neville, Kane for Owen. Bellingham must be close and I'd probably put Saka on the wrong side instead of Cole or play Foden there

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Pickford is miles better than Seaman was post-France 98

We will have to agree to disagree. No way Seaman lets in the Origi goal for a start

 

[The Bear]

Pickford, Ramsdale, Pope

Walker, Trippier, Stones, White, Guehi, Colwill, Shaw, Chilwell

TAA, Rice, Bellingham, Jones, Saka, Foden, Palmer, Maddison, Eze

Kane, Watkins, Toney


No place for Maguire or Rashford who are both shite. I don't care if they've played well in the past. Chilwell gets in assuming he's fit. We need someone who's really attacking on that side as a different option to Shaw.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

We will have to agree to disagree. No way Seaman lets in the Origi goal for a start

The England version of Pickford is better than the Everton version, for whatever reason.

Also I've seen Seaman floundering a couple of times, such as the Nayim and Ronaldinho goals. I could just as easily say there's no way Pickford lets those two joke goals in.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

If you're reaching back nearly six years to a goal in a game we arguably didn't even want to win, it suggests he doesn't do a lot wrong.

He's been excellent for Everton for years too.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

If you're reaching back nearly six years to a goal in a game we arguably didn't even want to win, it suggests he doesn't do a lot wrong.

He's been excellent for Everton for years too.

Oh I assumed Pad meant the Origi Liverpool v Everton goal?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Oh I assumed Pad meant the Origi Liverpool v Everton goal?

That one's over five years ago too...

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Looks like Chilwell might be crocked yet again.

 

[Tony Towner]

Looks like Chilwell might be crocked yet again.

I don't think we can afford to take more than one of him, Shaw or James

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Branthwaite in and Phillips missing out for this squad by the sound of it

 

[Sniffer]

Branthwaite in and Phillips missing out for this squad by the sound of it

Gordon and Konsa in too.

I thought that both were injured.

 

[Tony Towner]

Ben Brown made himself unavailable

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

I wonder why he did that?