The R.I.P. Thread

[Newbridge Wolf]

Christopher Tolkein has died aged 95

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

That’s sad. His collection of the notes and drafts of his father’s work on Middle Earth has pride of place on my bookshelf. All 13 volumes of it. A magnum opus in every sense.

 

[Keef]

I've never been a huge fan of the books,so couldn't even think about buying let alone reading a 13 volume collection of notes and stuff,if I was wearing a hat I'd take it off to you

 

[Keef]

Actor Derek Fowlds aged 82, best known for yes minister,heartbeat and mr Derek basil brush's sidekick in the 70s

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

That’s sad. His collection of the notes and drafts of his father’s work on Middle Earth has pride of place on my bookshelf. All 13 volumes of it. A magnum opus in every sense.

I respect the work he did on his fathers work, I did struggle to get into it when I approached it previously as I found it a bit dry, will no doubt give it another go at some point in my life.

Given my slight obsession with LOTR I should enjoy it, but then the escapism was always the real appeal of middle earth, not the draft workings

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

It is dry, no doubt about it. What I love is the level of detail available about JRR Tolkien’s world building. It’s mesmerising and it took him a quarter of a century before he felt comfortable to release The Fellowship of the Ring.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

It is dry, no doubt about it. What I love is the level of detail available about JRR Tolkien’s world building. It’s mesmerising and it took him a quarter of a century before he felt comfortable to release The Fellowship of the Ring.

The story that always struck me, was that Tolkien and CS Lewis often used to meet in a pub and discuss their work. What amuses me is what the barman must have made of these two academics and what must have seemed as utter gibberish that they came out with, especially Tolkien when he started talking about the Elven language.

I think in time I will revisit Christopher's work, the immense background his father put into Tolkien is amazing, often scoffed at by the literary world, you can not deny the amount of work that he put into creation.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

I used to do a fair bit of world building when I was regularly a Dungeon Master donkeys years ago (Paddy an RPG geek - who would have guessed). It can be really enjoyable but it’s bloody hard work. Tolkien took it to ridiculous levels. One book of the Christopher Tolkien collection is the Lays of Beleriand - basically all the legends and epic poetry of earlier ages that have influence in some way in the current events of LOTR. Often a barely noticeable influence. If I was doing something like that I would probably have the title of the legend, a couple of key character names and a tiny summary. Tolkien wrote literally hundreds of pages of the full epic verse. It’s mind bending stuff.

 

[The Bear]

I struggled with the LOTR appendices. Never mind the other associated works his son did. Far too dry. If there's no narrative I struggle to read anything. I recently read Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea for the first time. That was enjoyable but had long passages of very dry descriptions of marine biology that I just had to skip over.

 

[Newbridge Wolf]

I struggled with the LOTR appendices. Never mind the other associated works his son did. Far too dry. If there's no narrative I struggle to read anything. I recently read Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea for the first time. That was enjoyable but had long passages of very dry descriptions of marine biology that I just had to skip over.

Not to wanting to move too much off topic and create a literary review in a RIP thread, but I find the problem with reading an author such as Jules Verne in modern times, is that the originality he had at the time of publish is lost as modern culture has taken up so many of his ideas. When we reach an age we get to read his works the uniqueness and originality is completely lost on us (time machine is a great example of this)

 

[Keef]

Dean smith is taking Aston villa on a submarine cruise,he's heard there's 20,000 leagues under the sea,and he reckons they've a chance of winning one

 

[WolfmanOz]

Actor Derek Fowlds aged 82, best known for yes minister,heartbeat and mr Derek basil brush's sidekick in the 70s

Loved him in Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister - and as a kid I was a great fan of Basis Brush when he was the presenter.

 

[Pablowolf]

I used to do a fair bit of world building when I was regularly a Dungeon Master donkeys years ago (Paddy an RPG geek - who would have guessed). It can be really enjoyable but it’s bloody hard work. Tolkien took it to ridiculous levels. One book of the Christopher Tolkien collection is the Lays of Beleriand - basically all the legends and epic poetry of earlier ages that have influence in some way in the current events of LOTR. Often a barely noticeable influence. If I was doing something like that I would probably have the title of the legend, a couple of key character names and a tiny summary. Tolkien wrote literally hundreds of pages of the full epic verse. It’s mind bending stuff.

Please tell me you have a pointy wizard hat and cape/cloak.

 

[Paul]

Loved him in Yes Minister and Yes, Prime Minister

My favourite programmes, when all this lot are talking politics those are the voices I hear it in

 

[WolfmanOz]

My favourite programmes, when all this lot are talking politics those are the voices I hear it in

:beerchug:

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Please tell me you have a pointy wizard hat and cape/cloak.

No. I have never heard that one before either.

 

[Sniffer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51157933

UK manufacturing.

You know we've been leaving since 2016 so you should be prepared. The fact that you haven't been told what the terms are is irrelevant. Spin the roulette wheel, some may win, others will lose but we've always got the comeback that you fuckers voted for it.

Tossers

 

[James]

Wrong thread Sniffer please keep the scaremongering to current affairs

 

[Tredman]

Ah yes. This thread is for drug addled deceased wrestlers.

 

[James]

Ah yes. This thread is for drug addled deceased wrestlers.

Not all are drug addled, a lot of it is to do with being on the road 320+ days of the year plus the wear and tear on the body that being thrown to the ground over and over does to the human body