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The Official Euro 2016 Megathread

tredman said:
All this Hoddle stuff is getting a bit worrying. I genuinely couldn't bring myself to watch England if that twat was manager.
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Leaving aside my obvious personal dislike of Hoddle (I've never known purgatory like watching his football), I just don't get why his England reign is rose tinted.

In his final year he lost to Chile at Wembley, drew with Saudi Arabia at home, lost to Romania in the World Cup putting us on the tough side of the draw (where we lost), got off to an appalling start in qualifying for Euro 2000 by losing in Sweden and drawing 0-0 at home to Bulgaria, did his best to alienate Beckham and Owen, handled Gazza appallingly, gave Le Tissier a B international to 'prove his case', scored a hat trick and still didn't pick him, the football was rubbish, the selections were barmy...there is nothing to rose tint there at all. He was shit.

Plus he left us a decade ago and hasn't even come close to managing anyone since. He hasn't done a good job anywhere since Southampton who he left in 2001. His gilded status in footballing circles baffles me.
 
The names being put forward are generally horrendous. Hoddle and fucking redknapp? Jeez. Is it 1995 again? Only Curbs to go for the full set.

The problem for me was the initial squad. No width, no variation, and akin to capello's errors in 2010, taking unfit/injured players rather than those in form. What the fuck is wilshere in the squad for, rather than drinkwater for example?

As has been mentioned earlier in the thread, a few players should hang up their international boots now. Cahill being chief amongst them. The foundations are there for a really good team, if we play a system that suits them effectively.

And in addition, have a plan B. I'm no Townsend fan, but he has a directness of running at players, taking his man on, and giving a defence something to worry about. Plus he was in decent form at the end of the season.
 
Deutsch Wolf said:
Leaving aside my obvious personal dislike of Hoddle (I've never known purgatory like watching his football), I just don't get why his England reign is rose tinted.

In his final year he lost to Chile at Wembley, drew with Saudi Arabia at home, lost to Romania in the World Cup putting us on the tough side of the draw (where we lost), got off to an appalling start in qualifying for Euro 2000 by losing in Sweden and drawing 0-0 at home to Bulgaria, did his best to alienate Beckham and Owen, handled Gazza appallingly, gave Le Tissier a B international to 'prove his case', scored a hat trick and still didn't pick him, the football was rubbish, the selections were barmy...there is nothing to rose tint there at all. He was shit.

Plus he left us a decade ago and hasn't even come close to managing anyone since. He hasn't done a good job anywhere since Southampton who he left in 2001. His gilded status in footballing circles baffles me.
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Redknapp, Hoddle and Curnishly seem to be the talksport triumvirate, for reasons no-one will ever fully comprehend.
 
lemonjelly said:
And in addition, have a plan B. I'm no Townsend fan, but he has a directness of running at players, taking his man on, and giving a defence something to worry about. Plus he was in decent form at the end of the season.
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He can also shoot on target now and then
 
Don't get the "Roy is a coward" comments. What exactly was he supposed to say? Sure, he's the Manager, but he was probably as gobsmacked as the rest of us after last nights performance. And no matter what he came out with, no one would have accepted it.

For me, he did the right thing. Didn't leave everyone wondering what was going on - gave an immediate statement - and he's a nice bloke (that's never been in question), so I believe it was genuine. Then he left to let the storm blow over.

I'm sure we'll hear more from him in a few weeks when things have settled.
 
Bit unusual to have the statement prepared prior to the game though?
 
BTW, liked youngwolf's post on the page previous. I agree. Sound out Sir Alex. What would he want? Can that be managed? Not as intensive as sorting a PL team weekly, therefore, would it be practical?
 
lemonjelly said:
Bit unusual to have the statement prepared prior to the game though?
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Not at all.

People seem to be really struggling to understand that his contract was up at the end of the tournament. It was always possible and likely that we would go out at some point so his statement was already done and ready. He confirmed he was not renewing his contract and that was it, he didn't resign.

It's not as if he wanted another contract with England either. He said so himself that he would stay on if the FA wanted him to stay on, but he wasn't going to ask for another one.
 
lemonjelly said:
Bit unusual to have the statement prepared prior to the game though?
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His contract was up at the end of this tournament, so he would have had that ready to go through beforehand, I assume. It's just a shame it had to be in the manner it was.

edit: just seen Bear's post. What he said.
 
lemonjelly said:
BTW, liked youngwolf's post on the page previous. I agree. Sound out Sir Alex. What would he want? Can that be managed? Not as intensive as sorting a PL team weekly, therefore, would it be practical?
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Sir Alex has categorically said he will never manage England, no matter what. It won't happen.
 
Jinky said:
Don't get the "Roy is a coward" comments. What exactly was he supposed to say? Sure, he's the Manager, but he was probably as gobsmacked as the rest of us after last nights performance. And no matter what he came out with, no one would have accepted it.

For me, he did the right thing. Didn't leave everyone wondering what was going on - gave an immediate statement - and he's a nice bloke (that's never been in question), so I believe it was genuine. Then he left to let the storm blow over.

I'm sure we'll hear more from him in a few weeks when things have settled.
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He will be facing the media now which pretty much puts that debate to bed, after any bad result a coach should have the decency at least to the fans to explain where he thinks it went wrong.
 
The FA confirmed last night that the statement wasn't prepared before the game.

Hodgson sat down after the game and wrote it out, he's an intelligent man, not hard to write a statement.
 
jd1981 said:
He will be facing the media now which pretty much puts that debate to bed, after any bad result a coach should have the decency at least to the fans to explain where he thinks it went wrong.
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Yep. 4pm news conference announced. I'd imagine a few apologies here - a few soundbites there - and a couple of thank you's to top it off. Then that will be him ushered out the back door.
 
14:15 #bbcsportsday

Glenn Hoddle, who previously managed England from 1996-99, topped our poll on who should succeed Roy Hodgson as England manager.

It was a split vote, though, with Hoddle the choice of 13% of those who took part, with Harry Redknapp second on 11% and Sam Allardyce third with 10%.

The full results are:

Glenn Hoddle: 13%

Harry Redknapp: 11%

Sam Allardyce: 10%

Other: 10%

Eddie Howe: 10%

Slaven Bilic: 9%

Jurgen Klinsmann: 8%

Arsene Wenger: 6%

Guus Hiddink: 4%

Alan Pardew: 4%

Tim Sherwood: 3%

Manuel Pellegrini: 3%

Gareth Southgate: 2%

Gary Neville: 2%

David Moyes: 2%

Brendan Rodgers: 1%

Roberto Mancini: 1%

Chris Hughton: 1%
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:facepalm:

This is why we don't get a referendum for the England manager job.
 
I suppose the most frustrating thing is that there is debate after every tournament. Maybe too much pressure is put on the players shoulders, but for whatever reason we seem to be fairly average and predictable at tournaments. Though last night set a new low.
 
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