The Manager Sacked/Hired Thread 2022/23

[Kenny]

OK 6....

7 if Bournemouth lose

 

[Lupo]

Albion fans are concerned one of them might come calling for Corberan

 

[AndyWolves]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1613838825788162048

 

[SSB]

Mark Hudson, Cardiff, sacked.

The return of Colin?

 

[Kenny]

John Yems the racist bully at Crawley banned from football activity for 15 months after been found guilty of 12 counts of racism.

Even if 15 months was the maximum sentence available it seems piss weak. He's probably got away with murder during his career; he wouldnt have woken up one day into his 60's and decided to start spewing racist bile, he just got lucky other players who didn't feel as empowered to speak up as those brave lads at Crawley.

I'd have banned him for life, you'd hope he's finished regardless but show some teeth to all the anti-racism campaigns.

Sounds like a lovely chap. All his "banter" based on 1970's sitcoms by the looks of it

The FA disciplinary commission that banned the former Crawley Town manager John Yems for 15 months for using racist language towards players at the club decided he was “not a conscious racist”, the full findings of the case have revealed.
Yems, 63, admitted to one charge and was found guilty of 11 others relating to comments that referenced ethnic origin, colour, race, nationality, religion, belief or gender between 2019 and 2022. He called black players “Zulu warriors” and referred to an Asian player as a “suicide bomber”.
An allegation of deliberate racial segregation at the club “was not supported by the players’ evidence and was withdrawn by the FA”, the report added.
The FA argued for a two-year suspension but the independent panel agreed with Yems’s solicitors that his client was not a racist and neither did he “ever intend to make racist remarks”.

The report by the three-man independent regulatory commission said: “We regard this as an extremely serious case. We have accepted that Mr Yems is not a conscious racist. If he were, an extremely lengthy, even permanent, suspension would be appropriate. We also acknowledge that he and his family would have suffered considerably from the unjustified allegation, and attendant publicity, of racial segregation at the club.
“But what is clear is that overt racism, even if not deliberate, has no place in football or indeed in any other walk of life. Nevertheless, Mr Yems’ ‘banter’ undoubtedly came across to the victims and others as offensive, racist and Islamophobic. Mr Yems simply paid no regard to the distress which his misplaced jocularity was causing.”
Yems, who took charge of Crawley in December 2019, was sacked by the club in May after a number of players from the League Two club complained to the Professional Footballers’ Association, which led to a full investigation.
The tribunal heard evidence that Yems:
● referred to black players as “Zulu warriors and made gestures as if using a blowpipe”;
● deliberately mispronounced the actor Arnold Schwarzenegger’s name so the end sounded like the n-word, and similarly mispronounced “injury niggles” at a team meeting;
● A Muslim player became the butt of “jokes from Mr Yems” about “being a terrorist” including asking if he slept with an AK47 and was told that he could not have a GPS vest “because you people blow up stuff in vests”;
● Yems also asked a black player of African origin if he liked jerk chicken — a dish associated with the Caribbean — and referred to a player from Asian heritage as a “curry muncher”.

 

[Langers]

Nah, nothing there springs out as 'conscious racism'. Just crazy bantz, ay it.

FFS, I'd love to know what the criteria is to be found guilty of actual racism.

 

[Kenny]

It's ok, the cover this all players in the PL and EFL will wear t-shirts this weekend with "Kick Banter out of Football"

With that list of stuff, how on earth do you come up with "yeah its racist but not that racist really. He didn't mean it"

 

[Langers]

Just can't say anything these days without woke snowflakes playing the racist card.

 

[Tyrannosaurus Dan]

I mean, who hasn’t accidentally called an Asian person a “curry muncher” or a black person a “Zulu warrior”? Easy mistakes to make.

 

[Derby Wolf]

I'd be interested to know if the panel was old white men too? I reckon we all know the answer to that..

 

[prawnking]

Instead of taking the players to Marbella during a break he probably took them to see Jim Davidson on tour

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

We all know the football authorities - not just the FA - are toothless when it comes to this subject, but we can hope that 'football' does the right thing and no one offers him a job in the future, but I won't hold my breath.

He's 63 and a bit of a nobody so we probably are safe on that front.

Not sure if the case against Graham Rix and that other wanker at Chelsea* has been heard yet. That stuff is even worse.




*Not Hoddle, on this occasion. Gwyn something I think

 

[Derby Wolf]

Gwyn Williams.

The racism case about Rix passed me by, incredible he's still involved with football coupled with the underage sex conviction.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Gwyn Williams.

The racism case about Rix passed me by, incredible he's still involved with football coupled with the underage sex conviction.

Rix still shows his face in the Cricketers pub at the bottom of the road from time to time. He lived in the next village of Oxshott (where Sterling was burgled) with loads of other players and that was their place for a session. To think Hoddle took him back after prison, and he was good drinking mates with Ray Wilkins too, two guys who knew him well but with whose morality you’d like to think would’ve been the first to kick him into the long grass.

That was a long while ago and attitudes change but even so. As you say to think he’s still involved in football now is just incredible.

 

[EpsomWolf]

Nah, nothing there springs out as 'conscious racism'. Just crazy bantz, ay it.

FFS, I'd love to know what the criteria is to be found guilty of actual racism.

It just stinks of doing everything they can to minimise the charge and breeds resentment.

I’d be livid at that outcome if I was one of the guys on the receiving end.

 

[lemonjelly]

FFS, those examples aren't even classifiable as microagressions.
Is it any wonder that numerous ethnic minority groups/people despair at what actual intention exists to address blatant acts of racism and discriminatory behaviour.

 

[Alan]

“Curry muncher” is unbelievably appalling. Even moreso given I understand there’s quite a population of curry-loving cultures in the area?

Totally abhorrent shit.

 

[Keef]

As kenny said, the 1970s in the uk was exactly like this, youtube
love thy neighbour,
mind your language,
curry and chips for the worst of it,
and if you just want a bit of casual sexism thrown in, try on the buses, these were all very popular sitcoms

 

[Tony Towner]

Nothing he's said is uncommon or unusual, the only part which is is where he said it.

 

[Lupo]

Blackpool sack Michael Appleton