The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

[WsWolf]

Not this again.

If you started a new job and they promised you a new company car, corner office, 4 new members of staff and your own tea lady but only delivered 50% of that and then told you 6 months later you're not getting the rest at all, how would you feel?

You don't need the job and could get one easier elsewhere, your new boss is a lying arsehole and your expected to do the same job regardless of this weasel.

I'd walk too.

As long as they'd delivered the Car and Office I wouldn't be arsed. I don't drink tea and managing staff seems like a hassle I don't need in my life so they'd have done me a favour.

I'd also question the common sense of someone who thinks a club of Wolves stature is going to consistently drop huge transfer spends every window.

 

[big mean bunny]

As I said they won't look that deep at all they're not going to even know Wolves were 10th in the form table. Heard a number of pundits and ex players talk about the outgoings as if they were the core players of the side. We are in a position where being lower mid table they don't pay much attention to us at all.

The form for the last 6 we are bottom if this is accurate though.

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Last 5 / 6 / 10 Form Tables and guides for England Premier League 2023/24 season. Win %, Loss % and more stats for 20 teams.

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Last 10 then we jump up to 14th.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

The form for the last 6 we are bottom if this is accurate though.

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Last 5 / 6 / 10 Form Tables and guides for England Premier League 2023/24 season. Win %, Loss % and more stats for 20 teams.

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Last 10 then we jump up to 14th.

I'd wager a lot of teams would underperform relative to their overall form if you threw Brighton, Man Utd and Arsenal in as their only away games.



(Our away form in general was rubbish and needs improving as a matter of urgency especially as the opening 6 home games or so are all tough)

 

[Johnny75]

As long as they'd delivered the Car and Office I wouldn't be arsed. I don't drink tea and managing staff seems like a hassle I don't need in my life so they'd have done me a favour.

I'd also question the common sense of someone who thinks a club of Wolves stature is going to consistently drop huge transfer spends every window.

1) You'd be happy being lied to then.
2) Who has said wolves need to drop huge transfer spends every window?

 

[PuntsWolf]

You could be right, we'll see, I'm still expecting at least 3 players coming in, maybe not 3 we would have considered a few months ago.
Any way if Scott and Elvedi aren't announced on pitch this afternoon, me and my Billy Qiuet mates are kicking off

No I expect that to happen too because I don’t believe them. But I don’t get their angle either.

 

[WsWolf]

1) You'd be happy being lied to then.
2) Who has said wolves need to drop huge transfer spends every window?

Doesn't really bother me. Happens in every single corporate business I've ever worked for. I just assume they are lying already and as long as the pay is what I want I just mail it in then move on when I find a job that pays more.

The bloke who's throwing his toys out the pram, I imagine. We'll more than likely sign Scott and a CB, realistically we don't need more than that.

 

[Sniffer]

The form for the last 6 we are bottom if this is accurate though.

Premier League Form Table - Last 5/6/10 | FootyStats

Last 5 / 6 / 10 Form Tables and guides for England Premier League 2023/24 season. Win %, Loss % and more stats for 20 teams.

footystats.org

Last 10 then we jump up to 14th.

Another factor was that our safety had been confirmed was it with 4 games to go? Certainly 3.

 

[BGreenWolf]

Not this again.

If you started a new job and they promised you a new company car, corner office, 4 new members of staff and your own tea lady but only delivered 50% of that and then told you 6 months later you're not getting the rest at all, how would you feel?

You don't need the job and could get one easier elsewhere, your new boss is a lying arsehole and your expected to do the same job regardless of this weasel.

I'd walk too.

I'd walk. I wouldn't stay while whinging to the media about it.

 

[nimrod]

Hobbs said early doors we needed to make a £50m profit (or was that via Johnny Phillips?).

The alledged £60-£80m loss is just rumoured from PTS et al. Which if true we would have to make a profit this year, but given the outgoings and slashing of the wage bill (plus increased TV money and tickets) seems a given.

From what Penk/Craig put on Twitter though, the £60-80m loss seems almost impossible, particularly if Cunha and Traore’s deals are bumped into this FY.

But if all that is true, and those deals are in this FY, then we are currently sitting at that “£50m profit” and therefore will need to sell more to create wriggle room. But that isn’t even factoring in we’re saving c. £25m in wages which is huge and more important than getting £8m for Podence

does the £105m limit change at any point. Thought I read somewhere it did. If same for current year and we need £50m profit it would seem to suggest we made £150m losses in last 2 years (allowing for £5m leeway). IIRC bottom line last account was £46m (and we’d get some allowable back). So even if £80m loss this year struggling to see why we’d need £50m. Presume I’m missing something?

agree on wages saving. I thought I’d seen Podence on around £3m pa? Might have been someone’s guesswork.

 

[Johnny75]

does the £105m limit change at any point. Thought I read somewhere it did. If same for current year and we need £50m profit it would seem to suggest we made £150m losses in last 2 years (allowing for £5m leeway). IIRC bottom line last account was £46m (and we’d get some allowable back). So even if £80m loss this year struggling to see why we’d need £50m. Presume I’m missing something?

agree on wages saving. I thought I’d seen Podence on around £3m pa? Might have been someone’s guesswork.

We made a profit the year before the £46m loss. There's a lot of deductables in that loss too for FFP proposes and the COVID allowance to factor in.

Unless we increased the wages by £25m there is no way we make a £60-80m loss.

There was a new overseas TV deal signed last season for £20m to add to this.

With all the sales this season it's about a £26m saving in wages from last season.

The financial garbage they've put out simply doesn't add up.

My biggest bugbear is people believing that football clubs have to sell to buy. The revenue of a football club decides transfer policy not transfer incomings.

 

[PuntsWolf]

does the £105m limit change at any point. Thought I read somewhere it did. If same for current year and we need £50m profit it would seem to suggest we made £150m losses in last 2 years (allowing for £5m leeway). IIRC bottom line last account was £46m (and we’d get some allowable back). So even if £80m loss this year struggling to see why we’d need £50m. Presume I’m missing something?

agree on wages saving. I thought I’d seen Podence on around £3m pa? Might have been someone’s guesswork.

The “£50m profit” from Hobbs was net transfer activity. We probably just need to break even to be good for FFP. With the income and reduced expenditure it seems a given.

 

[nimrod]

We made a profit the year before the £46m loss.

Yep, but I thought it was about £16m. So if that’s enough for FPP compliance why would we need to jump to £50m to replace that year.

Ok, Just saw Punts reply which makes sense. So £50m net transfer activity and we must have made £40m+ on Neves alone so must be close. If only we didn’t have the amorts on a couple of biggies!

 

[Johnny75]

Yep, but I thought it was about £16m. So if that’s enough for FPP compliance why would we need to jump to £50m to replace that year.

Ok, Just saw Punts reply which makes sense. So £50m net transfer activity and we must have made £40m+ on Neves alone so must be close. If only we didn’t have the amorts on a couple of biggies!

£47m on Neves, £7m on Coads and £23m on Collins gets you to £50m net easily even if we buy Scott just using the silly metric the club have imposed of transfer incomings.

 

[nimrod]

£47m on Neves, £7m on Coads and £23m on Collins gets you to £50m net easily even if we buy Scott just using the silly metric the club have imposed of transfer incomings.

Neves I guess in books at £3m, Coads all profit, Collins assuming £20m cost so £4m amort + £3m profit. So all in £58m profit less any commissions and 3rd party % (any?).

 

[Johnny75]

Neves I guess in books at £3m, Coads all profit, Collins assuming £20m cost so £4m amort + £3m profit. So all in £58m profit less any commissions and 3rd party % (any?).

Which would give us enough for Scott down payment and with the Raul money trigger Elvedi's release fee at €7.7m

Then you've got Giles, Sanderson and Sarkic money too.

There's something else at play and I don't know what it is.

 

[SSB]

Alex Scott not playing today. Picked up “a knock” in training.

 

[Aikiwolf]

Alex Scott not playing today. Picked up “a knock” in training.

The whispers are saying he's at Molineux today

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Neves books in at £3m?? That’s a laugh. His contract in terms of the rules was done so he books in at £47m

 

[Freddeno]

Anyway, you cant say it's ideal all this outgoings and nothing incoming this year because of FFP..we've got to concentrate staying in the PL .nothing more

 

[The Dude]

Not this again.

If you started a new job and they promised you a new company car, corner office, 4 new members of staff and your own tea lady but only delivered 50% of that and then told you 6 months later you're not getting the rest at all, how would you feel?

You don't need the job and could get one easier elsewhere, your new boss is a lying arsehole and your expected to do the same job regardless of this weasel.

I'd walk too.

They've delivered 50% of what they originally promised?

So I've got 2 new members of staff who can have a competition to see who makes the best tea, a company car and my desk is sat with minions?

For £7m a year I'd suffer it probably.