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The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

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On the financial matters, I think our fans get it wrong and Fosun get it wrong.

On the fans' part:

- Expecting Fosun to be an endless piggybank is unrealistic and entitled, and they've never once said this would be the case
- We HAVE spent lots of money at various times and we do have to play by financial rules (including the new ones coming in which increasingly restrict expenditure relative to turnover), and it's unfair to say there was never any FFP problem at all
- Standard impatience when it's evident year after year that the bulk of transfer business happens in the final month of the window (for instance, do you see Man Utd's new striker yet, that they said they wanted three months ago? No, me neither)
- No gratitude at all for what they've done for us as a whole since 2016, which comes across terribly
- Blindly assuming a new owner would be better, or you could sell the club tomorrow, neither of which are true

On Fosun's part:

- Poor communication and either directly or indirectly (through friendly media links) planting inaccurate information into the public domain, there are enough people out there who can read accounts and regulations and easily disprove what they say
- Never ever getting the balance of spending right. It's either all guns blazing - frequently overpaying for players post-2020 - or completely throttled back even when there's a clear need for areas of the team to be strengthened
- Mixed messages on plans and transfer strategy, which change seemingly on a whim
- Dangerously seeming to presume our Premier League status is a given at times, which it absolutely isn't
- Continually increasing ticket prices when the on-field quality has markedly diminished, which is never a good look
 
For that to work the only conditions Bristol will accept will be:

1) At the end of the loan period we will pay £25m to make the transfer permanent.
Conditions end:

Anything else, such as appearances etc put the risk on Bristol City losing out on a pay day if something goes wrong.
Even doing a Cunha style "if he looks at the pitch 3 times we sign him" deal
 
On the deal. Going for a loan with obligation is fine. Presume doing it that way we can guarantee a bigger up front payment when it goes through.

Early reports were Bristol wanted at least £10m as the first payment, guess we can offer that and a bit more in 12 months time.
 
Those kind of deals do happen (it's fairly obviously just booting the outlay into another financial year), like for example I think everyone knows Kulusevski wasn't really on loan at Spurs right from day one.

However if Bristol City's ongoing insistence has been for the bulk of the fee to be paid up front and that's been a stumbling block then it makes no sense for them.
 
Those kind of deals do happen (it's fairly obviously just booting the outlay into another financial year), like for example I think everyone knows Kulusevski wasn't really on loan at Spurs right from day one.

However if Bristol City's ongoing insistence has been for the bulk of the fee to be paid up front and that's been a stumbling block then it makes no sense for them.
Guess it might help if we are sending a player they can use their way and then they get the fee up front in a year anyway.
 
However if Bristol City's ongoing insistence has been for the bulk of the fee to be paid up front and that's been a stumbling block then it makes no sense for them.
The only way to balance it would be a deal for Cundle or similar player is included. Adding a player to their squad with no outlay. Possible a season long loan and we still pay his small wages.
Then next summer they pick up a huge chunk of the £25m and possibly a good deal for the loan player if he has impressed
 
If I'm Bristol City then I'd want a big sum now to try and fund a push for promotion. Getting a promise of funds in 12 months time isn't really what a Championship club needs unless an increase in the overall fee and a watertight obligation is enough to get them to fund an advance on transfer fee from elsewhere.
 
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Bristol City are the bottlejob kings, never gonna happen. They're miles off at the moment anyway, not a good team at all.
 
Bristol City are the bottlejob kings, never gonna happen. They're miles off at the moment anyway, not a good team at all.
And hopefully about to be even weaker when we sign their best player.
 
If I'm Bristol City then I'd want a big sum now to try and fund a push for promotion. Getting a promise of funds in 12 months time isn't really what a Championship club needs unless an increase in the overall fee and a watertight obligation is enough to get them to fund an advance on transfer fee from elsewhere.
Why?
Most transfers are payable over X amount of years, you have still got the money to pay for transfers
 
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