The Incoming Transfers Everywhere Thread: Summer 2023

[Tom Hark]

Daily Racist saying we can do a deal with Flamengo. Just have to match the Lyon deal.
Until then Flamengo are not interested in talking to us.

I don't honestly see what's wrong with this (though I have read why others do, so no need to repeat, thanks). The price of anything is what someone will pay for it. If we agree £X and Lyon offer £X+1, then £X+1 becomes the price. If we don't feel Gomes is worth that price, then walk away; if we do, then pay it. But imo it's not worth losing out just because we've been outbid; that's just the price mechanism. The main factor should be whether this is an inflated price (an overvaluation), or simply market forces at work (a revaluation). Just because we accept the second doesn't mean we have to be susceptible to the first in future. (Although, let's be honest, if some of the prices we've paid since we hooked up with Mendes aren't classed as inflated then I don't know how else you'd define it.)

 

[Alan]

Whole thing is making me uncomfortable. Gomes is a person, not a commodity. It’s fucked that he’s getting used like this despite voicing his displeasure over it.

 

[Tom Hark]

Whole thing is making me uncomfortable. Gomes is a person, not a commodity. It’s fucked that he’s getting used like this despite voicing his displeasure over it.

Which is another reason to pay the price to get him here, although I'm never going to feel too sorry for anyone who possesses sufficient talent to command the sort of wages these guys get. Very few people are lucky enough to achieve 100% job satisfaction, and he's not exactly going to be put on a chain gang if he goes to France.

 

[Alan]

I’m not sure how to respond, so I’ll just say I disagree with willfully handicapping your empathy because he’s well paid. He’s not even close to holding the power here, as Flamengo are so blatantly demonstrating.

 

[Sniffer]

If it was an open auction then I have no problem in Flamengo selling to the highest bidder. On this occasion it seems as if all terms were agreed between the clubs and the player and then the club has backtracked. In theory we shouldn’t be able to talk to the player until everything has been rubber stamped and its then his prerogative to turn down anything that’s put to him.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I’m not sure how to respond, so I’ll just say I disagree with willfully handicapping your empathy because he’s well paid. He’s not even close to holding the power here, as Flamengo are so blatantly demonstrating.

Of course he does.

"I don't want to go to Lyon". So he won't go there.

 

[Tom Hark]

If it was an open auction then I have no problem in Flamengo selling to the highest bidder. On this occasion it seems as if all terms were agreed between the clubs and the player and then the club has backtracked. In theory we shouldn’t be able to talk to the player until everything has been rubber stamped and its then his prerogative to turn down anything that’s put to him.

Sure, but we're dealing with practice rather than theory. We might consider such behaviour unethical, but unless rules to outlaw it are introduced, sellers will be tempted use the system to their advantage. It's similar to the way in which a property vendor in England can renege on an accepted offer pre-exchange, with sometimes devastating consequences for the would-be buyer. I'd like to think I'd honour my word rather than accept an extra £25k or whatever, but it would be far better if the choice didn't exist.

 

[Alan]

Of course he does.

"I don't want to go to Lyon". So he won't go there.

If it was as simple as that, why isn’t he here?

I dunno. Whole thing is shitty is all.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

What are you suggesting? Clubs just let players go wherever they want? So Neves wants to join Barca, they bid £5m and we just say "ok"?

He has the power in that he can turn down a move that he doesn't want.

 

[Jabbawolf]

What are you suggesting? Clubs just let players go wherever they want? So Neves wants to join Barca, they bid £5m and we just say "ok"?

He has the power in that he can turn down a move that he doesn't want.

Do you think this plays the same in Brazil as UK?

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

If he goes on strike on order of his agent its identical. You can't force him to sign a Lyon contract.

 

[Kenny]

What are you suggesting? Clubs just let players go wherever they want? So Neves wants to join Barca, they bid £5m and we just say "ok"?

Scott says yes

 

[Kenny]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616838774096531457

 

[MARKakaJIM]

If it was as simple as that, why isn’t he here?

I dunno. Whole thing is shitty is all.

They both have to say yes, neither one can force the other, unless the player waits until the end of his contact.

 

[Jabbawolf]

If he goes on strike on order of his agent it’s identical. You can't force him to sign a Lyon contract.

…and so it should be….

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1616838774096531457

As Jonzy and I said
Don't worry about Dawson
I also pm'd Kenny earlier and told him what's tweeted their.

I am not divulging anymore info, it's not worth the shit.

 

[Jabbawolf]

As Jonzy and I said
Don't worry about Dawson
I also pm'd Kenny earlier and told him what's tweeted their.

I am not divulging anymore info, it's not worth the shit.

Tell us something we don’t already know - you’ve divulged nothing of any note so far.

 

[Kenny]

I also pm'd Kenny earlier and told him what's tweeted their.

Did you send it via Royal Mail? Nowt sent to me

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I also pm'd Kenny earlier and told him what's tweeted their.

How do you get into the top tier of ITK info via PM?

Why is someone giving this info to a random guy who lives in Spain and a retired ref, neither of whom can keep their mouth shut?

 

[Carsy]

Did you send it via Royal Mail? Nowt sent to me

Must be another Kenny