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The Football News Thread 2024/25

Mel Evo said:
This has to be a forum topic we can all agree on, right?!
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Nah they were a nothing club upto the mid 50's (except 2 good years 31/32) not even biggest team in Madrid then. Mile behind Bilbao, Valencia, Barcelona & Athletico.
Mid 50s got their shit together & Franco then jumped on the bandwagon.
 
Donegal Wolf said:
Nah they were a nothing club upto the mid 50's (except 2 good years 31/32) not even biggest team in Madrid then. Mile behind Bilbao, Valencia, Barcelona & Athletico.
Mid 50s got their shit together & Franco then jumped on the bandwagon.
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Franco was well aware of the power of the game to influence the behaviour and attitudes of the population, so he instituted a Ministry of Sport, led by loyal nationalists, to disseminate state propaganda and use football to distract people from poverty.

In 1943, after winning the first leg of a cup semi-final against Real Madrid 3-0, Barcelona’s players were paid a visit by one of Franco’s cronies, who reminded them that they were only allowed to play at all due to “the generosity of the regime”, and suggested in no uncertain terms that they ease off in the second leg.

Real Madrid went on to win that game 11-1, by far the biggest win in Clásico history. Again, it is difficult to ascertain the extent to which the story has been embellished, but it is hard to believe that such a scoreline could have come about entirely naturally.

By its very nature, a centralising regime is built on the power of its capital, and the Franco regime was centred, politically and economically, around Madrid. For this reason, Real Madrid, as the most successful team in the city, and the most prestigious team of entirely Castilian identity, was always likely to be the preferred team of the dictator.
 
leedswolf said:
Franco was well aware of the power of the game to influence the behaviour and attitudes of the population, so he instituted a Ministry of Sport, led by loyal nationalists, to disseminate state propaganda and use football to distract people from poverty.

In 1943, after winning the first leg of a cup semi-final against Real Madrid 3-0, Barcelona’s players were paid a visit by one of Franco’s cronies, who reminded them that they were only allowed to play at all due to “the generosity of the regime”, and suggested in no uncertain terms that they ease off in the second leg.

Real Madrid went on to win that game 11-1, by far the biggest win in Clásico history. Again, it is difficult to ascertain the extent to which the story has been embellished, but it is hard to believe that such a scoreline could have come about entirely naturally.

By its very nature, a centralising regime is built on the power of its capital, and the Franco regime was centred, politically and economically, around Madrid. For this reason, Real Madrid, as the most successful team in the city, and the most prestigious team of entirely Castilian identity, was always likely to be the preferred team of the dictator.
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Franco put his people into all educational and sporting institutes after the war, whilst Bernabau was installed into Madrid, even at Barcelona another loyalist Pineyo was installed, although he resigned after that semi final.

The 1st leg of the semi final Madrid felt hard done by and their press whipped the crowd up prior to the game to an extremely hostile environment. There is no evidence about Franco's officer visiting and some Barca players in later years said it never happened.
If it did happen then it was an isolated case of government help. In the 1st 14 years of Franco's reign, league winners

Barcelona 5
Athletico 4
Valencia 3
Bilboa 1
Saville 1
Madrid 0

As Madrid leaders were prominent on the nationalist side during the war (Bernabau's predessor as president was executed in the final days), it was felt that Franco had more of an affection for Athletico (originally founded from his air force).

3 things convoluted together in the mid 50's, European football, Real Madrid side & Spain coming out of their exile as an international pariah.

Which he jumped on the back of.

Most of the allegations about his influence on football to Real's advantage seem to come in the 60's when Barcelona were poor & tried to deflect some of their struggles on Rea saying they had an unfair advantage.


(For the record I dislike the cunts as much as everyone else does)
 
leedswolf said:
Franco was well aware of the power of the game to influence the behaviour and attitudes of the population, so he instituted a Ministry of Sport, led by loyal nationalists, to disseminate state propaganda and use football to distract people from poverty.

In 1943, after winning the first leg of a cup semi-final against Real Madrid 3-0, Barcelona’s players were paid a visit by one of Franco’s cronies, who reminded them that they were only allowed to play at all due to “the generosity of the regime”, and suggested in no uncertain terms that they ease off in the second leg.

Real Madrid went on to win that game 11-1, by far the biggest win in Clásico history. Again, it is difficult to ascertain the extent to which the story has been embellished, but it is hard to believe that such a scoreline could have come about entirely naturally.

By its very nature, a centralising regime is built on the power of its capital, and the Franco regime was centred, politically and economically, around Madrid. For this reason, Real Madrid, as the most successful team in the city, and the most prestigious team of entirely Castilian identity, was always likely to be the preferred team of the dictator.
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This is why despite taking us for fools - more our fault than theirs - I still like seeing Barca beating Real.
 
Deadpool and his mate are now joint owners of the Wrexham Lager Brewery
 
Crisis club Walsall Wood have announced their resignation from the Northern Premier League.
 
So it seems Man Utd looked at bringing Welbeck back in the summer - would have been on a free.

Dithered and he ended up signing a new deal with Brighton, then scores against them this season.

I mean we're run in an incredibly haphazard, ridiculous fashion but they're possibly even worse. Boyhood United fan who'd probably have walked back to Manchester to get a swansong there and you mess it up, then spend £35m on some Dutch nobody in the same position who looks fucking terrible.
 
Only just found out about Real boycott, just when a club couldn’t be disliked more.
Just arrogant and self entitled bunch of arseholes.
Unless they’re top of the tree in every aspect then they behave like spoilt children.
Don’t like the fact that La Liga is 2/3 horse race and that the PL does so well financially.
 
jd1981 said:
Only just found out about Real boycott, just when a club couldn’t be disliked more.
Just arrogant and self entitled bunch of arseholes.
Unless they’re top of the tree in every aspect then they behave like spoilt children.
Don’t like the fact that La Liga is 2/3 horse race and that the PL does so well financially.
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Yeah they've acted like entitled pricks over it. But even Brazil has done something similar in calling it a disgrace.
 
The Bear said:
Yeah they've acted like entitled pricks over it. But even Brazil has done something similar in calling it a disgrace.
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He was pissed off it wasn't an Ipswich player
 
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